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Monday, May 5, 2014

The "Invisibles"

[Today's guest post by Susi O. Fanabba is part of our paid blogging program.]

A few weeks ago, we celebrated National Sibling Day. This Sunday, we will celebrate Mother's Day. And next month, we have Father's Day. For many people, including many pro-lifers, these holidays are a cause for joy. But I implore you to be sensitive; many people have come to dread this time of year. Children who have lost parents are an obvious example. Let us also remember the "invisible" sufferers:

Those "only" children whose siblings have died.

Those, like me, who have lost a sibling to abortion.

Those parents who have lost their only children, and are therefore unlikely to receive any recognition on the days set aside for mothers and fathers.

Those post-abortive women who relive their pain each Mother's Day.

Those single parents who are raising children on their own due to the loss of a partner. (My mom is in this category, having been widowed at a young age with four kids. While it's been almost 20 years, it's still painful for us on Father's Day.)

We as a movement should do more to acknowledge these "invisible" victims. If you know someone who may find Mother's Day or Father's Day difficult, please consider sending them a message to check up on them, etc. Many of my friends who have lost children have been so touched to know that their babies are remembered.

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Rainbow Walker said...

Yes facts are facts and I showed them you did not.



Once again diversion because you lost the debate. You don’t have to believe the other lies but you choose to. Logic always wins out. This would make a
great study. Believers will believe anything they are told.

MarcusFenix said...

LOL, dirty tactics. Lets see, the admin of a site notes you and one other poster have the same identical IP address....which one of them is then banned, and you go back and make a new screen name and brag about it. That's 3 accounts right there.

What part of "sock puppet" don't you get? God, it's like an echo chamber in there, isn't it?

You weren't blocked for "opposing views". You were blocked for being an idiot with mulitple accounts, while talking down to people using copy/paste of the DSM to make pseudo-diagnosis on people you don't know.

See, this is how it went:

You posted this:
"Either she has you snowed or you’re her doppelganger. People with disorders often
create multiple profiles to “talk” to themselves and others online. To bolster
themselves and their claims."

You then turn around, and do just that...have multiple conversations with yourself, like clockwork.

This lead the admin there to post this on the thread:

"Add confirmed lying hypocrite sock puppet" to that list. Just checked the
IPs -- he and Suba gunawardana are the same guy."

So, either you and someone else are sitting side by side and you forgot to mention it, someone is hacking your network and posting on the same sites as you and agreeing with you because they're super swell like that, or....

You are a "Add confirmed lying hypocrite sock puppet".

Coyote said...

You appear to be begging the question here because you are assuming that I agree with the current law in regards to this.

MarcusFenix said...

I'm the idiot, who got caught with multple accounts and was banned for being nuts. Ooook.

"I proved I and Suba are not the same and Suba has no multiple accounts."

And you did this how? By your say so? Because we should totally trust you right? Suda says you're legit, so it must be right!

Same IP means.....what exactly? Just wondering if you can clarify this for me.

In full disclosure, i haven't been back to read it, so...please, prove it's all just a horrible lie! I'l wait!

MarcusFenix said...

(As an aside)

Usually,the ones who have a "you're with us or against" us would be the folks, i've primarily found, on the other side of the debate. Mention the word "restriction", and abortion supporters go nuts every time.

Adam Peters said...

What's up Marcus? I don't mean to sidetrack things, but do you mind if I bring up the fetal pain issue? As I said earlier this month...

Based at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center in Memphis, Dr. Anand’s findings indicate that a fetus can feel pain at 20 weeks gestation. He explains that “a fetus at 20 to 32 weeks of gestation would experience a much more intense pain than older infants or children or adults” due to the underdevelopment of “fibers which dampen and modulate the experience of pain.” This is especially important when one considers that an abortion at 20 weeks usually involves dilation & evacuation (D&E), a procedure in which the child is pulled apart piece-by-piece. Some, such as Dr. Mark Rosen, contend that a fetus lacks the conscious ability to feel pain as we understand it. But while the nuances of how to define pain may be disputed, University of Utah neurologist Maureen Condic argues that in light of the huge potential for suffering, “there is sufficient uncertainty to warrant giving the fetus the benefit of the doubt.

http://liveactionnews.org/pick-up-lines-how-naral-gets-lucky-on-capitol-hill/

MarcusFenix said...

Merry Meet, Adam. :)

Not at all...the floor is yours on this very early morning, sir. :)

lady_black said...

Who cares if you agree with the current law? It's been the law for a long time, and changing that law is bad public policy. If you think the courts are going to suddenly wake up some day and say, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if we didn't make fathers support their offspring?" then you've been smoking something you shouldn't be smoking. By the way, that isn't begging the question. However, the video you posted is an excellent example of "begging the question."

Coyote said...

"Who cares if you agree with the current law?"

I do, considering that we are discussing what the law should be.

"It's been the law for a long time,"

You appear to be guilty of the red herring fallacy here.

"and changing that law is bad public policy."

That might be debatable.

"If you think the courts are going to suddenly wake up some day and say, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if we didn't make fathers support their offspring?" then you've been smoking something you shouldn't be smoking."

Frankly, I do not know what the future holds, and neither do you. In addition, if the law in regards to this will not change, then I will simply continue pushing for a ban on most abortions.

"By the way, that isn't begging the question."

Yes, it is, because you using the current law in a debate about what the law should be when not everyone agrees with the current law. That is essentially what begging the question is--it is using a premise to support one's argument(s) when not everyone agrees with your premise in the first place.

"However, the video you posted is an excellent example of "begging the question.""

How, exactly?

lady_black said...

Here's why it's irrelevant that women "make the final decision." That's biology. A pregnancy cannot be carried in the body of a male. How can you give a male any say over what goes on in a body that isn't his? I'd be interested to hear exactly how this works out in action. It sounds as though what you're purporting is that men fling their seed around wherever they wish, and then after the fact, they get to hold a refusal to support a child if she decides to bring it to term. Here you are neatly using your Magical Eraser to erase the fact that his biological role in the creation of new life is not equal to her role in the first place. His part takes what? A couple minutes and he's done. You can't erase that fact. Also there's an inherent he said/she said issue in this setup. People do change their minds, especially men, once they realize the girl doesn't necessarily become part of the deal because the relationship doesn't work out. It's nearly impossible to bring equality into a situation that is inherently unequal without granting the male undeserved rights over the body of the female through coercion, i.e. "have an abortion or bear the entire burden yourself." And no it doesn't require any acknowledgement of personhood beginning at conception, unless you're through the looking glass. If personhood begins at conception, then he's on the hook for even MORE expenses related to the pregnancy. I don't believe that's fair to him. During the pregnancy, the bills are her bills BECAUSE the ZEF isn't a person.

Suba gunawardana said...

How come you have no problem with the "moderator" of your sacred LAN banning people without an ounce of proof for his claims?

The burden of proof should be met by those making the allegations you know.

Why would anyone be so afraid of opposing views to the extent of banning people on false allegations? Because the opposing views constitute the TRUTH.

Suba gunawardana said...

As I said above, the burden of proof is not mine, but that idiot who made the allegations in the first place.
Not surprising that YOU don't need proof to condemn people.

Rainbow Walker said...

Banning me with no justification. Then spreading a lie and not coming forth to defend it? That’s proof enough. He’s a coward.

Now I have to get back to work caring for the children you religious nuts abuse.

Fusengammu said...

Hi MarcusFenix

Yup, got to keep it civil :)

I don't find an error in the pro-choice line per se. I am pro-choice because I don't see the fetus as a full person, and I believe given the current state of medicine and science, this is a justifiable position. Whether we grant the fetus full person status really comes down to emotion. As it stands now, I don't see how not granting the fetus full person status negatively impacts society, ie values life less etc. Society now values life more than it has ever done in the past - think consumer protection laws, the enormous amount of money we spend on saving premature babies etc. So in such a situation, I think it would be wrong to restrict abortion based on the emotions of pro-lifers.



That being said, I see the abortion debate as mainly hanging on whether one considers a fetus as a full person. I think this view can change with advances in medicine or science. For instance, if neuroscience were to advance to a degree that we could decipher the on-goings inside the very rudimentary fetal brain, and discover that the fetus actually has emotions and feelings, my views about the fetus may change. As a practicing, publishing neuroscientist, I very much doubt this will ever happen, but if this is turns out to be true, I would probably change my position.

Ingrid Heimark said...

And you use your "license" to diagnose and GAF people you don't know. Very trustworthy.

lady_black said...

For one thing, your very young MRA rube slides right past the biological facts of how we humans reproduce to arrive at the stunning conclusion that it's 100% women's decision "whether or not to create a new life." (His words, not mine.) Except it's not. It's 100% a woman's decision whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term (or attempt to do so). Actually two people make a decision that may or may not lead to conception. At that point, one of them has safely completed his contribution, but the other has a long way to go to complete hers, fraught with peril. Get the picture? And then your answer to this dilemma of unequal reality is to 1) cheerlead to allow the man to them financially abandon his offspring and stick the one who has already done most of the work with ALL of the work. Or 2) keep pushing to make sure she has to do all the work or die trying. Then maybe if he feels like it, he'll help out a bit. It doesn't surprise me a bit that men make these ridiculous arguments. Your teenaged video star is a clueless cretin. It's no skin off his nose either way is it? Fortunately, our legal system isn't that dumb, and will continue to see that children are the only ones in the situation with rights once they have been born. His rights? Who gives a rat's ass? Time for him to step up and do the rest of his part. She's already done the lion's share of the work, and that will continue for the next 18 years. He gets to do nothing more than lift a finger to write a check.

MarcusFenix said...

Appreciate the response.

MarcusFenix said...

Actually, the double account thing was justification...not to mention you were acting like a jackass. Just food for thought.

*You* religious nuts? So, if someone disagrees with you, then clearly it's based on religion? Wow...whatever "care" you're giving to these people (if that's even what you're doing....we know you're not honest at this point)....is something you should likely reserve a bit for yourself.

MarcusFenix said...

Jennifer there likely doesn't know, or care, that you're using yourself to respond to people as more than 1 account. She's an idiot anyway, but...yeah.

I have no problem with a moderator banning you from a site for dual accounts. I have no problem with a moderator banning you for acting like a little child and pretending to play doctor. I have no problem with a moderator banning you for the brand of toothpaste you use, because it's Wednesday, because you have hairy toes, or any other of the billion reasons that moderators everywhere do what they do.

It's their site. they can ban people for anything, anytime, at their own discretion. the fact you got popped for sock puppetry was yours, and your magical say so is not proof.

MarcusFenix said...

Im just not sure what part of "These 2 accounts are coming from the same IP address" that you don't get.

I mean, if you WANT him to publish those, and you want people like me having access to your networks and hacking your systems, then sure. Ask him to publish the data. Ask him to give anyone who wants to read it access to that.

I'm sure that will end well.

You keep asking for proof....I notice that you give none in your own defense, other than "I said so". That's not proof. Sorry.

Suba gunawardana said...

To all the cowards on Live Action Network, who make unfounded allegations and ban all opponents from their site,
then continue the “debate” unopposed:

I am rebutting all your responses here. Many of my responses apply to this thread as well. (If I missed any, I will respond if you re-post them here)

@PJ4: How are animals different from us? Seems to me they
are weaker & more vulnerable. If humans are “superior” shouldn’t they be protecting those weaker than them? If you think it’s perfectly fine to kill animals because they are weaker than us, why doesn’t the same principle apply to fetuses?

@Ingrid: There’s no law stating you cannot get rid of an invader unless they come from outside. The fact that the invading entity was created inside your body, does not preclude your right to get rid of it if you so wish. Such entities include fetuses; tumors; parasites born inside your body.

@John Lind: Indeed I am, and the value of my philosophy is
exemplified by the stupidity & cruelty of a population who forces unwanted children into life then abandons them to misery neglect & abuse; and keeps breeding relentlessly at the expense of all living beings on a fragile planet. The importance of my philosophy is also amply demonstrated by the collective
stupidity & cowardice of the inhabitants of the LAN site who cannot face opposition even on their own turf.

@Basset Hound: Have the guts to come here and have a real
debate, instead of insulting people behind their back?

@MamaBear: - If we ARE superior, we should be helping & protecting ALL those weaker than us. If we are nothing
special, it would be fine to kill ALL those weaker than us, i.e. animals, fetuses, children, whatever. You can’t have it both ways, i.e. Claim we are superior, yet exploit/kill those you want (while prohibiting others from killing what they want).

-Abortion is just ONE solution to child abuse, which cannot make a dent in the huge epidemic of child abuse. Just like seat belts cannot prevent all the car crashes, or even make a big enough dent in it. Does it mean seat belts should be abolished?

@Calvin the Cowardly moderator: You made false allegations.
I challenged you to put your money where your mouth is and defend the allegation. All you could do was ban me without providing an ounce of proof. Thus you have shown yourself to be a liar and a coward afraid of any opposition. I challenge you to come out of your hiding place to any common thread and have a real debate with me in public.

Rainbow Walker said...

Off the argument about the fictitious atheist force birth movement? No by a long shot. And of course you only post on one forum. You don’t have the guts to venture forth from your safe haven.

Rainbow Walker said...

“I tend to try and do something about that problem...which would go hand in hand with the ideas I believe in which come from a pro-life philoso phy.”

Actually forced birthers usually do nothing. Furthermore they create and cause the problem from the get go.

“You're pushing stats together to make a conclusion, without knowing all of the cogs that go into it. No dice.”

Really? The vast majority of these children are neglected and abused. Very few wind up orphaned because of the “breaks
of life”.

[https://www.dfps.state.tx.us/About_DFPS/Data_Books_and_Annual_Reports/]

“Well, if you can admit that,
there's hope yet!”

You really don’t get it. That flaw is not in rational, it’s in application. Forced birthers have no rational.

“Yet, if we were talking about anything else, like plants....you'd have restrictions lined up around the block.”

Did I ever say I wanted plant rights? Your ideology will make us like Korea. It will strip all rights from
us.

“i won't devote time to sock puppets, past one post like this.”

Of course you won’t answer anyone, you have no argument. You believe a lie because it’s an easy out. And if you won’t devote time to so called “sock puppets” why are you still answering?

“the woman (98% of the time) places herself into the situation that she finds herself.”

Forced birthers love this
argument. Straight from their iron age book of fairy tales. Always blame the
woman. You try to restrict birth control access and sex education and ignore
the fact that over 60% of sex in the world is due to rape. Typical, you want
someone to abuse and then blame them for it. Even if it was voluntary, the
choice should be hers.

It is slavery when you dictate to a woman, tell her what she can and cannot do with her body, rape her and then say she must carry the child. You are cruel and stupid. But then look who I’m talking to. You probably would love a child bride.

“Appealing to consequence or pity (take your pick...there's more than 1 of you, so you might be able to have both!) won't work here.”

I appeal to nothing but logic. I won’t find it with you.

“You're concerned with suffering to the point that you've convinced yourself that it's inevitable.”

You don’t even understand Retrospective Determinism [because something happened, it was therefore bound to happen].
This is when one uses assumed qualifiers. My qualifiers are not assumed, they are fact. That’s how science works. You see a pattern and if that patter doesn’t change and is constant you can count on it. Like gravity or the earth spinning on its axis. Except for something drastic [like the earth blowing up] it won’t change.

“What a foolish and uneducated statement..”

Hardly. All one needs to do is read your drivel. You feed on suffering.

“Slip up, or bad context?”

Idiot. If they don’t exist how
does it affect anything? Except they don’t suffer.

“You assume there will be
suffering, where I do not.”

Because you are delusional. You actually think you are talking to multiple persons when we both know better. You
use this leveling and projecting tactic because I outed you Calvin. Why are you so afraid? And use your dopplegangers to speak for you? That way when they are proven to be idiots it’s not a loss to be attached to your name.

MarcusFenix said...

Not even going to read this..blah blah blah sock puppet blah blah.

Goodbye.

Rainbow Walker said...

Still putting forth lies with no substance. I posted the links. You cannot read.

You are projecting with that Cruise allegory. Man I hit a nerve. Calvin if you were any kind of man you would stop this charade. You want everyone to think Suba and I are the same person, but will show no proof. And yes you can publish ip’s. There is little danger today. If in doubt block out one or two octets. You can still derive basic location. Then I can show you the one’s I found that are public.

At any rate, I don’t care if you want to feed your dissociative identity disorder. I will NOT use your multiple profiles as an excuse to avoid answering.

“Notice the interesting irony of this?”

No irony. Only truth in my
statement. You told a lie and believe it.

MarcusFenix said...

blah blah blah sock puppet "But i swear i didn't, trust me!" blah blah blah

Rainbow Walker said...

Since the forced birthers are replying to my comments on the communist LAN and being banned there by the little coward Calvin I will reply here.

@Ingrid Heimark who said:

“You didn't know GAF has two dimensions? Symptoms AND Functioning? And GAF is a measurement when it comes to
symptoms, as psychotic, ie under 40. Functioning, would a mother of 5 studying at uni have a GAF functionng at 51? Nope. But you are diagnosing a person based on your opinions of abortion. This is funny. And embryology has actually PROVEN our case, that a new and distinct human life exist at fertilization, depending upon implantation for further development. Are you gonna take a shot at MY GAF?”

Once again you are wrong. At least here I can post links, on LAN the only links one can post are to forced birth sites. It’s not for symptoms, only function.

[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3230237/]”The
Global Assessment of Functioning (GAF) scale was introduced in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 3rd Edition (DSM–III) as a method for rating patient functioning for all psychiatric disorders.”



It is not dependent on the symptom.

[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11704940]”Sixty-four
patients with borderline personality disorder (BPD) were followed up for a mean of 27 years… Mean GAF score was 63.3, mean SCL-90 raw score was 0.7, and mean SAS-SR score was 2.0.”

Personality Disorders can be highly functioning. Ever heard of a cool, calm, psychopath?

And no embryology has disproven your myth. It doesn’t matter whether or not it’s “new and distinct”, a corpse
has the same genetics. Until it’s aware, it’s not human and the sensory connections for that aren’t present until late third trimester. Furthermore what makes us human is a deep psychological awareness. You gonna tell me a
fetus can reach out and shake hands with you or play ping pong? Yes I know an infant cannot either. But the connections and synapsis have formed in an infant and more importantly THEY DON’T INHABIT A JURIDICAL PERSON.

[http://www.acog.org/~/media/Departments/Government%20Relations%20and%20Outreach/20120618DCAborStmnt.pdf]

[http://www.rcog.org.uk/fetal-awareness-review-research-and-recommendations-practice]

I think you are using this to feed the forced birth delusion. Otherwise, why would you respond to a profile you
know is defunct? You could easily have come over here and replied.

As for your GAF, your lack of awareness speaks volumes.

MarcusFenix said...

LOL...why not just make a 4th, or 5th account and go back?

*facedesk*

Rainbow Walker said...

Thank you for outing yourself,
Calvin. I note you didn’t deny the allegations. Nailed you.

MarcusFenix said...

LOL, what part of "Not Calvin" did you not get?

Seriously, your defense is that everyone who disagrees with you is, in fact, Calvin.

What a paranoid, delusional fool you are.

Do you have proof? Let's see it. Otherwise, put a sock (puppet) in it.

MarcusFenix said...

I would be remiss to point out, btw....

You now have said that Calvin, PJ, Adam and me are all the same person...along with likely Ingrid and a few more over on LAN. You've got it in your head that we're all the same person.

But, unlike you, i'm not a complete retard.

The admins here would be pretty fast to point out if we were all the same person if asked. Feel free to do so. I can at least verify that myself and PJ are 3000 miles apart. The others, no idea where they're from.

You're sad...sad and angry and bitter. No wonder you think the way you do.

Rainbow Walker said...

What am I supposed to believe, your word? Everyone who disagrees with you is a sock puppet. Your favorite excuse when you lose. That’s why you’re so upset. I outed you.

Prove it? You made the allegation first. Prove yours.

Suba gunawardana said...

What??? Now all of a sudden we are supposed to take YOUR word? LOL!

Suba gunawardana said...

I see PJ is here giving upvotes to her buddy Calvin, but doesn't respond to my post to her.

MarcusFenix said...

I didn't allege anything. I made note you were kicked off a site for multi-logging and being a sock puppet.

Your rebuttal? "I'm rubber, you're glue!"

How very adult of you!

Everyone who disagrees with me is a sock puppet? That means you and everyone here would be that...and in your case, it's already been discussed.

LOL, this is getting more ridiculous every time you post. Give up.

MarcusFenix said...

Nope. I'm simply pointing out the words of others. Sorry that's not clear. :)

MarcusFenix said...

You do realize that you're literally replying to yourself....you're talking to yourself.......as usual.

She responds and upvotes because, if you look in my profile page with all 23 followers....she's one of them. She can see what's going on in my feed and can go right to it.

Sorry you don't understand how the internet, or computers, or IP addresses work, or the fact that anyone reading this is laughing their ass off at you.

Cheers!

Rainbow Walker said...

Defensive now, aren’t we? And we’re supposed to take your word for it. A man who uses a character from a video game as his user?

“The admins here would be pretty fast to point out if we were all the same person if asked.”

You are a complete moron if you think we believe that. The mods here are the doppelgangers. I have never seen a blog where the mods are so involved with the thread. Most of the time they are invisible.
I have friends who are mods. You control the whole show. Talk, interact, demean and accuse [with no proof] only on LAN. If you must venture forth it’s with an avatar. And the minute someone challenges or threatens to out you, there’re banned.

You are afraid of something. Or being
paid.

Suba gunawardana said...

Your words
"I can at least verify that myself and PJ are 3000 miles apart."
We are supposed to take YOUR verification on anything we can't see?

Rainbow Walker said...

Anouther one of the cowards on LAN is maligning me.

@MamaBear who said:

“Constantly accusing people of needing medication and giving out a new phony mental health "diagnosis" in almost every post is neither debating about nor commenting on the subject. I happened to see the deleted posts before they were deleted. It is extremely rare for people to be deleted on LAN, but those posts were so rude and off topic, they deserved it.”

Which I never did. Those are spurious allegations. I hope you can back it up. I have all the posts I’ve ever written. I only provided one opinion and PJ4 requested it.

Extremely rare? I see people a plethora of folks banned from your sight. All prochoice. The minute someone brings argument they cannot face, or in my case the moment I outed Calvin he banned me, with no proof.

Suba gunawardana said...

My question was not why she was up voting you, but why she didn't respond to my rebuttal.

Obviously I cannot respond to her, since she didn't post here.
So to WHOM should my post have been addressed?

MarcusFenix said...

I'm not being defensive at all..and have no reason to be. Seeing shadows around every corner? Everyone is a "doppleganger" now?

I think you're a complete moron for a multitude of reasons....some of this notwithstanding.

I haven't been on LAN in months, btw...you can check my feed as proof of that, if you like. Please, enjoy reading everything i've written, and none of it there.

I'm not afraid of anything you have to offer, much less am i being paid. Hell, I'd talk trash to you and push buttons (while you show all of this insanity) for FREE.

;)

Please, more accusations and deflection....you know, since literally everyone on LAN is me, everyone here except you is me, and it's one huge conspiracy!!!

ROFLMAO.

MarcusFenix said...

Nope, but...if you believe that i'm like 15 different people on 2 websites and *I* am the reason you got banned, then you're pretty far gone at this point :)

Suba gunawardana said...

I never said you are the reason I got banned, unless you are Calvin. Are you?

You may well be a sockpuppet, since you got so defensive at the mention of that & started providing "verifications" that you are not.

Funny when I was accused of being a sock puppet and I simply denied it, you refused to believe me, yet here you are expecting me to take YOUR word.

I was banned because Calvin is afraid of opposing views. From what you just said, sounds like you are Calvin. If so, I challenged you above. Come debate me as yourself.

MarcusFenix said...

"I never said you are the reason I got banned, unless you are Calvin. Are you?"

I'm not...but you keep saying i am, so i have to go along with the idea that if you've mistakenly thought i was him, that you'd in turn blame me....and your posts here are pretty clear on the matter.

Define "defensive". What was defensive about telling you that your credibility is shot. That you're an idiot. That you are a sock puppet, a whiner, and a fool? That's not defense. But keep thinking so!

Please keep towing the "I was kicked for my opinion!" line. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I am debating you as "myself"....you can't even handle that. You don't want to have people gang up on you, now do you? ROFL

I don't expect you to accept anything i say...you've proven how irrational, how silly, and how idiotic you can be. Do whatever you like, but it's fun watching you melt down like the Wicked Witch at a Super-Soaker fight.

Or is that tooooo "defensive"?


ROFL!!!!!

purrtriarchy said...

Mr. Fenix is not Calvin Freiburger.

This is Calvin:

http://rightcal.blogspot.ca/

Calvin is well known around these circles, and he is most definitely not Mr. Fenix here.

And yes, Calvin routinely bans people and accuses them of being just like Nazis.

MarcusFenix said...

I have no idea. you could ask her, but...that's too much like doing something right.

Maybe...you should post...i dunno....to her...for an answer? Not my department.

MarcusFenix said...

Well played, purr. Thx.

Suba gunawardana said...

What's defensive about lies and groundless insults? EVERYTHING. All those names you just called me, are ways to deflect from and avoid addressing the real arguments I brought a while back. You had no rebuttal, so you resorted to insults, then hid behind the "sockpuppet" story to excuse your lack of argument.

But that's not the defensiveness I was referring to. When Rainbow mentioned you were the same as someone else, you ran all over the place & stated all kinds of "verifications" that no one else could really verify.

Anyway, you are not worth my time.

Rainbow Walker said...

“I made note you were kicked off a site for multi-logging and being a sock puppet.”

Same thing. Why did you choose to propagate a lie [with no proof] on this site with an avatar? Because we outed you and you have no rebuttals.

You made it ridicules and stupid the minute you came, Calvin.

MarcusFenix said...

Or, they're ways to mock you for being those very things. There's always that. I know that's confusing to you, but...it is what it is.

I simply parroted the sock puppet claim. Oh well. :) It's not an excuse, or anything else, when you admitted to doing it on the other page after making more than 1 account, and all of your shrieking here is doing you no favors.

If i;m not worth the time..then you'll not reply and save us both the trouble, but...if you like adding to my evening entertainment, then please....you and your puppets reply away. :)

Toodles!

Suba gunawardana said...

That's just two profiles. According to their logic that Rainbow & I are the same person with two different profiles, they might well be the same person. I have no way of knowing.

Either way I don't care. It was Fenix who said I accused HIM of getting me banned. I accused Calvin of banning me. So how did that shoe fit?

MarcusFenix said...

Well, if it's a lie....you'd have proof. I've asked for it. You've not provided it.

In case you missed it, even Purr notes i'm not doing what you've claimed...so, just in case...now you can eat a big giant bowl of STFU about it. :)

It's "ridiculous" Spell checker please. :)

Rainbow Walker said...

“Everyone is a "doppleganger" now?”

Everyone is a sock puppet to you with no proof. Still not facing facts and no argument.

Who pushing whose buttons? Keep going.

purrtriarchy said...

I understand:)

You might get a laugh out of this, here is Calvin in action. I am linking from the last comment, you can work your way up, this way they all show because D sometimes hides comments:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2014/01/why-is-it-always-men-advancing-the-pro-life-position-2/#comment-1223442522

And uh, Mr.Fenix, is far, far more intelligent than Calvin could ever hope to be.

Suba gunawardana said...

I would except I am banned from the only site she seems to post in.
So I DID post to her here, seeing that she was here.

Apparently she is too cowardly to answer.

MarcusFenix said...

LOL...keep going? OK.

Your own support people here have stated what's what. Or, do you believe they're just my sock puppets to?

GL with that one!

MarcusFenix said...

Actually, no.

Calvin stated you came from the same IP address......not sure why this is still a question to you.

Clearly, your understanding of things needs a revision. Try again.

MarcusFenix said...

I'm almost taken back...It's not like you to compliment me.

I'll take the kindness and thank you for it, regardless though.

MarcusFenix said...

You can reply to her here. She's farther down the thread.

You could also reply to her, if her profile isn't private (not sure, haven't looked recently) to where ever...

Likely she'll see this on my thread anyway, so there's that.

Cowardly...or busy? The world doesn't revolve around you, ya know?

Suba gunawardana said...

Logically, if you see fit to call others sock puppets without proof, why can't others call you a sockpuppet without proof? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Rainbow Walker said...

So you have a sock fetish too Calvin. No wonder you’re hung up on the words “sock puppet” and create your doppelgangers. Yes do keep going.

MarcusFenix said...

Logically, if you had proof it's one huge lie and cover up and we're all out to get you (and you've claimed you've proved it, mind you).....

You would have posted that proof by now. Like, last night. Sometime today. Hell, you could it right now.

The difference in your "goose and gander" analogy is....Calvin specifically stated that you and your other account were from the same IP. Now, I grant it's taking what he said at face value, but...he's not the kind of guy to call that sort of item out if he couldn't justify it. While he's a moderator over there, he still has people to answer to and likely...him going to lengths to tell us about your puppetry, should they be false, would put him in an awkward position.

So you see, you're basing goose and gander retaliation on the idea that by saying it, it's just as good...but you've got nothing left to offer.

Sorry, you lose.

Suba gunawardana said...

I challenged Calvin several times to stand behind his false allegation. He did not. Instead he banned me. Ergo, no proof.



You just took the word of a biased forced-birth nut because you wanted an excuse to insult me & not respond to the actual argument.

MarcusFenix said...

If you want Calvin to see something like this, you're going to have to post it for him on his page, or on a link of his. He's not in my follower list.

So yes, please keep going after your idiotic rants have been shown (by people that disagree with me at EVERY turn) to be nothing more than you running your mouth.

At least you're not interrupting Arrow for me anymore. Excellent season finale, since you likely missed it between all of your paranoia and idiocy.

MarcusFenix said...

Well, then....you can take that up with Calvin....cuz he ain't me, sweetheart.

I took the word of someone i've dealt with, and who has dealt with me honestly (even when what i was being told was negative, or against my own agenda)....over the word of a spastic, multi-account using harpy.

Do you get it now as to why that works the way it does?

I insult you because you deserve it, and because I can. I don't really need reasons to levy insults at folks like you...and while it might be uncouth at times, it's worth it to watch you come all unhinged over stupid crap.

Cheers!

Rainbow Walker said...

It‘s very clear, you’re just an
idiot and think everyone else is.

MarcusFenix said...

Also, in case you missed it...I did address your "arguments" yesterday, about injecting animal rights and all that other nonsense.

If you'll recall, i said you were presenting a non sequitur. A non-argument.

I know it's been a day, and keeping track of so many accounts is tiring, but you should at least try.

Suba gunawardana said...

Thanks for that info. If she will see this on your thread anyway, she will know that I posted a rebuttal to her on this thread. It's upto her if she wishes to respond.

The world may not revolve around me, but LAN is certainly busy gossiping about me as I see from the emails I get. So if they don't respond after several open challenges (specially Calvin) it is only cowardice.

MarcusFenix said...

And yet, you're the one spinning in circles between accounts. It's amazing.

Yes, I think most people are idiots. People like you, who unilaterally go out of their way to prove it, only justify my positions further. So, thanks for that!

MarcusFenix said...

Well, someone has to tell you how the internet works. I don't mind helping the disenfranchised or uninitiated. It's a public service. Remember, I look for solutions and fix problems (when possible). :)

And that's great. Guess who has two thumbs and isn't on LAN going on about you....

d--(^_^)--d This guy.

You can call it whatever you like. I'm only indulging you to pass some time before raid starts. I'm glad you're willing to play along!

Suba gunawardana said...

Then right back at you. I don't believe a word you say because you haven't earned my trust.
If you insult because you can, you are a bully not worth my time anyway.

purrtriarchy said...

They always gossip about us Subu. The folks of LAN rarely venture out of their safe zone. Not one of them is banned from Patheos blogs or RHRC.

MarcusFenix said...

and that's fine. I don't fault you for not taking my word for it. That shows you still have some firing neurons with a shred of doubt and curiosity. Those are things that will serve you well.

Bully, troll, guy who just DGAF...take your pick. Not really concerned either way. :)

Suba gunawardana said...

As I already said, finding fault with the argument is just another excuse for your lack of rebuttal.

Just to remind you, I am not arguing FOR right to life for animals. I am arguing AGAINST right to life for fetuses.

Seems you cannot grasp that, so again, you are not worth my time. Let's end this here.

MarcusFenix said...

I'll bite.

I've posted on RHRC before...so there's that. It's been a while, but it's there. I got what i expected. I went to log in to post and found myself banned. Don't know if they remove bans, or if someone was just being a tool, but there's that.

As far as Patheos...i've never really wanted to post there. I've crossed virtual swords with folks like Sidensticker, but he didn't really reply much. His loss, I really wanted to debate him honestly.

Beyond that, if you look at my feed....in the last few months, I've been a bit more quiet. Between things in the real world, trying to start a business and all, I've had less time than I like.

But you know me at least well enough to know....I'll talk crap here to people like Sabu...don't need to go elsewhere and do it. :)

purrtriarchy said...

I am sorry you were banned. I haven't seen them ban anyone lately, unless they are an obvious troll.

I really hate echo chambers, which is why I like to visit various sites:P People sitting around agreeing with one another is BORING.

BTW, do you just like to fuck with Russel Crawford?

Rainbow Walker said...

Really Calvin? Many people do that to clarify. But as a mod you should know that. Man you’re stupid.

People make avatars to give themselves upvotes. And anyone can see your feed. It’s isn’t private [but it
should be its sickening]. And why isn’t she responding, maybe because you are
the same.

You think others don’t know how the net works? You don’t. Should I instruct you about api’s and how they can reveal a person’s location? No one’s laughing at her, accept all your personalities.

MarcusFenix said...

Finding fault with the argument was the rebuttal. That's HOW you rebut items. I found the fault with your argument. I told you what it was. That's not a dodge, it's a response. You didn't counter me with why i was wrong, you didn't give me a syllogism as to what logical structure you used to form the thought.....

In case it's not clear, i'll break it down.

My rebuttal = you. have. no. actual. argument.

I can't place rebuttals past that, *since* *there* *was* *no* *other* *argument*.

Your reply otherwise tells me you don't get this very basic idea. I'm not dodging your discussion. I showed the path of thought you used, and showed where your fault in logic was...simple as that.

You might not be arguing that, but it's the analogy you use. I rejected it for being improper and unimportant, and even told you why. You have continually insisted that they're seperate, but keep using it as a basis for the discussion.

What isn't being grasped is what I've laid out here.

Make an actual argument, based on what you believe, and make it correct, or don't make one at all...and don't get pissy when it gets rejected for being a non argument.

Suba gunawardana said...

Your failure to grasp the argument doesn't make the argument invalid. Anyway we are done.

MarcusFenix said...

"Really Calvin? Many people do that to clarify. But as a mod you should know that. Man you’re stupid."

I guess you still are flipping screens, since it's been stated by more than 1 person here now that Marcus =/= Calvin. But please, keep running with it!

I don't. I have this account. None other. If I want an upvote, i'll do it myself. Like i will here!

"You think others don’t know how the net works?

Well, since i have to explain it to you and your multiple accounts, then yes.

Please, give me a lesson on API. I'd love to hear it. Of course, if you're just going to copy/paste something from a site about it, i'll figure that out pretty fast. WOW me with your Deepnet knowledge. Show me how trackbacks based on GPS in photos work. Please, try and tell me something I don't already know.

See, "all your personalities"...you just sound like a retard now. I'm not expecting you to educate me on anything, but surprise me!

Rainbow Walker said...

You’re not the reason. You’re the cause. The reason is we challenged and outed you.

Who’s the one who first made false allegations with no proof and then made damn sure we couldn’t defend ourselves?
Remember due process. That’s a foreign concept to commies.

MarcusFenix said...

I tried to keep it civil...a little sharp, but giving what I got. At the end, if memory serves, it was like 4 on 1, and 2 of them were just shut down...and when i went to reply to the other 2, I couldn't post.

Not your fault, and don't blame you. My way of looking at it....It's their site, and they have the right to ban, or not, at their own discretions. As a proprietor, i respect their right to do so, even if i disagree with it...and that goes for anyone, on either side of the line.

I agree that agreeing is boring....which might make me boring? Dunno.

Honestly, I wish you and i could talk this one out without the argument getting bad....but we both feel strongly, and i totally admit pushing your buttons sometimes is kind of fun....moving forward, i'll try not to do that. But yes, if everyone just nods their empty heads and agrees, nothing really constructive can get done. We'll see, i guess.

And yes, I absolutely love messing with him. I did like 3 months ago, and he decided to pull the "I'm the moderator!" card...and i decided to just troll the crap out of him, since i already felt i'd pooped all over his argument anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to find he's got multiple mental conditions....but yeah, i totally love screwing with him. It gets old really fast, but...he decided toreply to me after like 3 months of nothing, and i let him have it again. Even i know when to stop, but clearly he was just lonely and missed our back and forth conversation.

I honestly can't see someone subscribing to his view of things...even people that agree with abortion that i've shown his site thinks he's outta his mind.

MarcusFenix said...

Yet, clearly the "i dont get it" was immediately countered with the idea that i took WHY your argument was wrong, told you about WHY it was wrong, and then rejected it, asking you to make a proper one.

It's funny how you resort to "you don't get it", when someone breaks it down, hands it back, tells you why its wrong, and asks you to make a real argument. If i didn't get it, i wouldn't be telling you to go back and make a real one.

You do have a real one, right?

MarcusFenix said...

Outed who from what? You do realize that your claims have already been busted and rejected, even by people here?

The definition of stupidity...doing (or in your case, saying) the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.....the result is that we're all different people. We're not the same. Your insistence otherwise changes nothing and it's just sad you keep doing so.

no one made those, as far as i know, until you started saying we're all doppelgangers and multi-account logging like you....but you know about those who dost protest too much...methinks....well, you get the idea.

"Remember due process."

Yes. I also remember this isn't a court of law, you're not a lawyer, I'm not a prosecutor, and your due process is far from this place. The fact you even mention this makes me want to troll you even harder.

NEXT WITNESS PLEASE! LOL

purrtriarchy said...

I know you like fucking with people Marcus, which is why I tend to avoid you:P


In our debate yesterday, I was using a new technique, pioneered by some particularly boneheaded pro-lifers, one of whom is known as myintx. IE, be unreasonable.



My biggest problem is, I try too hard to answer *every* question and be as reasonable as possible in debates. I am genuinely honest. But, this is the internet, and people would rather fling their dicks around than have an honest discussion. A lot of debate is simply about *proving* superiority, and I hate that, even though I do give in sometimes. There was a great article about how debate is often about domation, but I can't find it right now:((


I'd rather just discuss Kate Upton's boobies with you instead :)

Rainbow Walker said...

The only ones busted are yours.

“The definition of stupidity.”

A perfect description of yourself.

“until you started saying we're all doppelgangers”

Still I supposed to take your word for it? You have been proven an idiot and liar of the worst kind.

Due process is afforded us everywhere. It’s our constitutional right. I am a lawyer [I never passed a bar but have a JD]. Of course look who I’m talking to, an idiot forced birther who doesn’t care about rights.

And thank you for admitting you are a troll of the worst kind.

MarcusFenix said...

Perhaps..but you at least give what you get...i'm not sure how to take that statement.....more like I'm the Boogyman, or just an a-hole. I'd go a bit of both, but..i'm clearly biased on that one.

I've seen myintx...i think they're one of my followers even. I don't read my followers' pages as much as i should, but again...been busy, so..I haven't been as engaged.

"My biggest problem is, I try too hard to answer *every* question and be as reasonable as possible in debates."

I've noticed...and as much as i don't go out of my way to be a douchebag to you, i do exploit that when possible. Wouldn't be fun if I didn't. My take on this point is that honestly, not all questions need answers...but even further, there are questions that people don't like (or want) the real answer to, and avoid it at all costs. If i can, for a moment, i'd go this route, if it helps understand how i see things.

There are questions, like should abortion be legal. To me, many (on both sides) are missing a point. My focus is more of the morality...the right and wrong...rather than legal/illegal, or restrict/on demand. I think people start with those items first, because its the easy argument. I don't want the easy argument (as SubaWalker here is seeing right now). I want the better argument. I want to answer the hard questions first. I think, personally, if we can answer the tough questions first...the rest can be dealt with. Laws change, opinions change, but truth...facts...there are things that don't, and both sides need to really take that to heart.

"There was a great article about how debate is often about domation, but I can't find it right now:(("

I've read many papers and items about debate...and yeah, that's pretty much it. As people, we're loathe to be wrong, and we always want to be right...and it can bring out the best and worst of us.

"I'd rather just discuss Kate Upton's boobies with you instead :)"

DONE. This thread, no more topic debate. We're hijacking this for boobs, and i'll reply to no other actual points...Suba isn't gonna like it.

So, Upton. Have you seen her in that new movie, and if so..whacha think? Personally, I can't get enough Upton cleavage, though my heart still belongs to Christina Hendricks. :)

MarcusFenix said...

Awwwwwww, you're so cute when you're squawking!

No, don't take my word for it. Purr, down below, said it too. You can take their word for it. You can go find out for yourself.

You promised me a lesson in API. I don't see it here. Failure is strong in you.

"Due process is afforded us everywhere. It’s our constitutional right.

Let's be honest...I care about rights. in fact, your very argument AGAINST me was that i wanted to give rights where you believed they shouldn't be given. I believe the appropriate response is "How dumb iz u"? to say that?


And yet, you'll find none here. I mean, you want to rules lawyer us to death? This isn't Dungeons and Dragons....and if it were, i'd dock your XP gain for being a rules lawyer and likely drop your stats too. Since your INT score is already at 3, gonna have to dock you a point elsewhere.

So, you're a lawyer....that's never passed the bar. That's like being a police officer that never passed the academy. That's pretty useless, as is basically everything you've said. Of course, you only call me a liar, because...well, it's really all you have. Name calling and harpy-like noises.

I admit, i'm trolling you. The fact you keep feeding me means I'm pretty darn good at it, because you keep coming back for more. And I hope you keep coming back, to continue justifying my case about it. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. You can walk away anytime and I wouldn't think less of you...mainly because that's not possible, but...it wouldn't make me think ill of you *again*.

Now, Purr and I are gonna talk about boobs for a while. you're welcome to join in, but we're pretty much done here, Counselor. ROFL

purrtriarchy said...

I've noticed...and as much as i don't go out of my way to be a douchebag to you, i do exploit that when possible.

Yes. You called me 'dunce commander' but I ignored it!

You are very very good with rhetoric. Me. I'm a failure:( Just a different personality type, I think.

So, Upton. Have you seen her in that new movie, and if so..whacha think


Haven't seen it yet. Did you see the latest SI? They HAD to put her on the cover again, didn't they? Even if it was the back..lol


Her tits are AMAZING in that issue. BTW, you called me 'he'. I am actually a she, but I enjoy looking at hot ladies with my boyfriend, and KU is one of our faves.

MarcusFenix said...

Term of endearment? :) Honestly..i have no idea why you change your name so often. Makes me curious.

Would it make sense to say I dislike rhetoric as a general rule? I know it's a tool in the box (and your compliment is well taken), but in most situations, i avoid it because it's not useful all the time, and it can get in the way (esp in politics).

I don't think you're bad at it, btw. You have a different style. Not being patronizing...everyone has a different way of going about it. My own debate style could use some tune ups here and there too...but you're not bad at it. Just stand your ground...best thing i can say, as an observation.

Oddly enough, you strike me as being someone i'd agree with on other things...so there's that.

I have, in fact, seen the SI. Personally, she should be on every cover, but...bias on display fully. :) If they hadn't given it to her, i'd have been surprised.

Sorry for calling you a he....bad internet habit of thinking everyone is a dude.

I wouldn't mind seeing KU as a judge on something like America's Next Top Model, or something along those lines. Would make me want to watch it! I haven't kept up with her ongoing endeavors outside of the SI and the movie (she's interesting in it, it's worth watching....although, full disclosure, I was made to watch it on a date night), but wasn't bad overall.

Anyone else you think compares to Kate? There's totally some fine British ladies about!

purrtriarchy said...

I change my name for fun. I used to hang out on irc, and my friends and I changed our names all the time. I get bored, and language is fun:)

I left this out of an earlier comment but, I debate abortion partially for entertainment and as a distraction. Sometimes when I am angry I will just log on to insult the idiots with the terrible arguments!

Iga!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iga_Wyrwa%C5%82


Check her out, she has some nice big naturals.

MarcusFenix said...

Fair enough...i always wondered why. I figured either you did it for fun, or to confuse the crap outta people for a minute. Either way works well for me. :)

I get that...discussion here with Walker notwithstanding. :) I totally get it as an outlet for frustration though.

On my part...I argue it as part of an academic angle as much as i can...even though my life has been touched by the act itself. Life sucks...but as much as people accuse pro life people of using their religion to back up facts...i work as hard as i can to do it the other way around. If i can't back it up, i don't let it infiltrate my spiritual life. :)

IGA.....good call (BTW...dunno why i think you're British?)

The classic Liz Hurley is always a fav of mine, as is Beckinsale and Weisz.

Jessica Clement and the woman who did the remake for Bionic Woman that didn't go far...her name escapes me. Another beauty is Jaime Murray. I would club a baby seal to death with my own severed left arm to get close to that. ;)

still......Hendricks still crushes them all. I don't think she's a natural red head, but man....she's got it.

purrtriarchy said...

Canadian.

I do care about women's bodily autonomy, obviously, but, arguing on the internet really doesn't win hearts and minds. Not generally. So, I don't do it for those reasons.

I never used to like Hurley but she grew on me.

Clement is cute, I like the hair. Same with Murray. Lovely long black hair!

An oldie but goodie - glamour model Shay Laren. She has a cornfed beauty about her, and totally natural.

VS model Candace Swanepoel is one of my bf's favourites, her body is perfect, even if small boobs. I just find her sort of dull, tbh. I prefer Doutzen Kroes and Adriana Lima:)

MarcusFenix said...

Ahh. Not sure why i thought British. GTK though. :)

And we agree...if we were arguing almost anything else, and bodily autonomy was the item up for debate, I'd be right there. I think there are specific rights, inalienable rights, that all persons possess. In any other venue, we'd likely find common ground on it.

I find it that winning hearts and minds here is a hit or miss...most people don't want to give up what they think, so there's little mind changing. There are places it happens, but that's the exception. It's nice to find, and wish there were more, but...such is life.

Back to the fun.

Murray just....oozes sexuality to me. I've seen her in a few things, Warehouse 13, though Dexter was a favorite due to the scenes, but...she could read the phone book and i'd find it sexy. Clement is awesome too, the hair is a definite attraction.

Laren...definitely. Good spreads in Penthouse. Softcore isn't too bad, and i find her attractive :)

Not familiar with Candice, I'll have to look her up. I don't mind smaller, but...models that look like they're a day from third-world level starvation (and small tatas) isn't my think. Lima, definitely, though at the top of my VS models is always going to be Tyra...she's hott, well built, and has a tremendous personality. She just seems more alive and vivacious than some of the others, and that (for me) is always a plus.

Rainbow Walker said...

She never made a duplicate
profile. I did. And I openly admitted it. I created it to confront you, Calvin because you are too much of a coward to face me as yourself.

I have to get some sleep. I’ve
wasted enough time giving you free psychoanalysis.

MarcusFenix said...

Please take your tin foil hat off.


I. Am. Not. Calvin.

You've been told that by me, and by Purr. How many other times do you need to have this explained? Purr wouldn't cover for me if I were this lying fat dirty lying liar....nor would I expect her to.

You created a second account, and a third...and however many more. I don't give a crap. If you want to talk to Calvin or about your ban, do it on LAN. You can email them, if you like. I think it's editor@liveactionnetwork.com or org or w/e. It's on their site. Have at it.

Free analysis...from someone who is a lawyer? You said you were...but you never passed the bar. Are you really a psychologist, but just never got your accreditation from the APA? Maybe you took a bunch of classes, but didn't bother with that silly "I need a license" business with any regulatory board.

You're a joke. Go to bed. We're talking about boobs and you're interrupting...unless you want to share? hmmm?

Nighty night!!!!!

purrtriarchy said...

I really miss the models of the 90s and early 2000's because they were sexy. Fashion and society in general has just gone for the bland, emaciated look which is booooring.

MarcusFenix said...

and they consider that look "high fashion".

I'll take the 80's and early 90's versions of Kathy Ireland, Cindy Crawford, and even Jenny McCarthy (yeah, she's a little loopy, but...dem boobs...) over some of whats out there now.

Maybe we can pick this up later? It's raid time, then i have to get some rest....appointment tomorrow.

It's been very pleasant, purr. Thank you. :)

purrtriarchy said...

Night.

I can't play LOTRO because my motherboard died yesterday, and I am stuck on a crappy laptop and I don't have ANY of my citations lol:(

Rainbow Walker said...

Actually I would disagree. They are both quite stupid. This Fenix uses long syllable words, which he doesn’t understand, and same syntax and ramble. They even insult in the same manner. Fenix often speaks for Calvin in a manner. When Suba pointed out certain things Calvin said Fenix replied as if it were him. He evades in the same manner and detracts. Look very
closely.

Furthermore I know something you don’t. I’m waiting for him to make a mistake. And he will.

AmyE said...

Dude, no offense, but you seriously sound like a "birther" right now. Okay, if you can prove that secular prolife is a front for a religious organization then I'll believe. (And accepting money isn't proof because most organizations will accept money from anyone as long as they're not aligned with radicals or have a bad reputation.) Otherwise this all sounds like a conspiracy.

AmyE said...

Once again not all atheists are the same. I've been to a few churches. Some Christians will open arms to anyone, donate money, volunteer, even if they're not helping Christians. Others believe in only helping Christians. I've been to one church where I heard some people say how excited they were that the Jews would burn in hell. Is this Christian? I don't know because every church seemed to have a different view on these matters. Some believed that you believe in Christ to get saved and that was it. Others believed you had to be friendly to everyone. Now personally I would like to say that enjoying the idea of Jews burning in hell is not very Christian, but since the definition of Christianity is belief in Christ as the savior, then that person is still a Christian. A misguided Christian but still a Christian...

AmyE said...

He knows you're one of the religious nuts that abused the children he looks after? Why hasn't he called the cops on you?!?!

AmyE said...

Dude, I know PJ asked for your diagnosis, but it was just a joke. Sure, it was fine for you to reply, but then you just kept it up for multiple posts. Then even for unrelated posts, like once I said something and you replied and somehow related it back to PJ's mental health. I mean, it's okay to tease, but then it seemed kind of stalkerish. And also off topic since the thread wasn't about mental health.

Ingrid Heimark said...

I don't have the energy, and yes, I have been at your beloved Rhrc, the freedom of speech, if you compare it to pro-life forums you frequent. is deplorable

MarcusFenix said...

Ouch, sorry about the mobo...know that can be a pain. :( Never played LOTRO. Was a WoW guy for years. Played Rift, and am on ESO for right now, though my console and some older stuff like a MUD or two are calling me back a little. :)

No worries. Concise is good, and lord knows my posts can get long...but don't be afraid to write a book if that's what it takes! :)

MarcusFenix said...

As clearly evidenced by their postings here, SubaWalker doesn't have time for rational decisions, or to bother using actual discussion points, forming coherent debating platforms,or even bothering with anything that makes sense most of the time.

Also, one would think that someone who possess such a high intellect (as they clearly purported) and such accolades as being a lawyer (but not really a lawyer, they admit) as well as a psychologist (maybe not really this either, who knows), would at least have some grasp of the English language and grammar.

Guess that's just asking too much. :)

MarcusFenix said...

Well, in playing devil's advocate...when you're running at least 3 different accounts, if not more...it could stand to reason that keeping track of anything else would be a bit rough. That laser-like stalker mentality is the only way that SubaWalker might be able to keep it straight. ;)

MarcusFenix said...

" This Fenix uses long syllable words which he doesn’t understand"

Of course, you can demonstrate examples of this, yes? Clearly, you have some in mind, and i'd love to see where you (someone clearly grammar and context challenged) would be able to give me a lesson. Let's see it.

"They even insult in the same manner."

If you paid attention for more than 1 post or so, you'd see there are different styles. We don't even post in the same places, much less use the same insults or style. It's not hard to see.

"When Suba pointed out certain things Calvin said Fenix replied as if it were him."

I have yet to see this post. Could you link it, for review? You know, it's good to show your work.

"Furthermore I know something you don’t. I’m waiting for him to make a mistake. And he will."

So, in the end, you don't really know anything. If you're waiting for a "mistake" about me being someone else....then you're going to be watching for a VERY long time. But you're welcome to come up with whatever crazed, myopic (look, it's a word with short syllables, but means something...does that help you?), conspiracy addled half pound of mush you call a brain.

I could just point out that this "thing you know that we dont"...would be just like everything else you've stated to have proven....just a bunch of words, with zero substance, zero facts, and zero credibility to go along with it.

So, lets have it. If you've got something, put it on the table. I'd LOVE to see what you come up with. :)

Basset_Hound said...

Just curious...how do you feel about Call of Duty Ghost...

Basset_Hound said...

Just curious...do you like Call of Duty Ghost.


I've just finished a work at home project scoring fourth grade essays required by the state of Texas, and a lot of the little ten year olds were crazy about it (and Minecraft, of course)...

MarcusFenix said...

LOL...is this a word play on the "ghost" over on LAN's page? ;)

Honestly....i skipped it. This will take a sec, but..bear with me.

I loved CoD, always have. the one in the pacific was good, and Black Ops was something i really got into. I was damn good at it, if i do say so myself. :)

When BO2 came out though, I was....less than thrilled. The game itself on single player was fun, but not terribly engaging at times. The multiplayer seemed like just new skins for old content most of the time, and little new stuff past gadgets or weapons i didn't use much.

Mainly....the zombie mode *my favorite part* was complete crap. Only bright spot was Richtofen's voice for the one part, but the rest of the voice acting and call outs were complete crap, and sometimes you didn't even get any of those when playing, like using the agent or CDC guy. Overall, i was disappointed.

When Ghosts came out, there was no zombie mode. That, alone, was enough for me to not get it. Yeah, there's some alien thing that's like it....but it isn't the -actual- thing. I miss Tank. I miss the Dr. I miss the really funny one liners and whatnot.

Otherwise, it was graphically nice and all, but...at this point, it's deviated away from what i personally find fun (and moving things technology wise forward just for new toys) doesn't really impress me.

That said, i skipped it and likely will pass on the new CoD coming out, even though Spacey is voicing one of the main characters.

MarcusFenix said...

Review below.

also not a huge minecraft player. I'm down with most first person shooters, RPG's, MMO's, and adventure games. I even play 2 MUD's still. :)

Happy to answer gaming questions. Proud to be a gamer since 1980. :)

Basset_Hound said...

Didn't figure you'd like Minecraft. I got the impression it was for kids.


What's your favorite platform. It seemed that these little guys (I assumed most of the kids who wrote about getting games were boys. For the most part, they didn't identify themselves) liked their X-Boxes hands down.

MarcusFenix said...

will reply when i get home. time for dinner out with a lovely woman and some grocery shopping. :)

Basset_Hound said...

Whenever...like I said, I'm just academically curious. Not all of the essays I scored were about video games, but I'd get about 10-20 a day....

Suba gunawardana said...

Can’t stop dragging my name into it I see. OK Calvin/Fenix, care to start
fresh?

First, can you take the challenge I posed to you both here & on LAN, to
stand behind your false allegation? (Hint:
your word is worth nothing, I want concrete proof for your claim that “Suba and Rainbow are the same person”).

Second, even some religious nuts can grasp a point without having to be
spoon-fed, and present a point without wasting thousands of words (this time literally). Anyway, making allowances for your henchman status, let me rephrase my point:

You already admitted that your stance of “breed-breed-breed at whatever cost to other individuals” is based on selfishness. So why should anyone else
sacrifice their freedom & their body to uphold your selfishness, or the
selfishness of part of humankind?

Suba gunawardana said...

A challenge to Calvin the Coward aka MarcusFenix (or any other forced-birther of the same mindset):

Here’s a summary of YOUR view: “We, forced-birthers, wish to retain our right to kill/use/abuse other individuals for our own necessity & convenience, but to take away WOMEN’s right to kill a fetus for their necessity & convenience. Killing is fine when we say so but not when anyone else says so. We wish to propagate the human species at whatever cost to non-humans, OR to human women & children. This includes forcing every single fetus to birth, regardless of the mother’s wishes or the well-being of the future child. We call this concept “human ethics” which makes it easy to fool the gullible into thinking it’s for their own good”.

My rebuttal: There’s nothing ethical about sacrificing the well-being of individuals for ANY cause. Nothing remotely ethical about running roughshod over living breathing sentient individuals (children, women, animals) in your quest to propagate the human species. If you want to propagate the
species, fine, do it yourself. You have no right to force others to participate in your goal, and to make them sacrifice their bodies and well-being in doing so.

MarcusFenix said...

Personally, i'm an Xbox owner, but not adverse to the PS consoles. Just happened to want one over the other. PS has a lot of the import games (Disgaea, Digital Devil Saga, Shin Megami Tensei series), and other niche games that Xbox doesn't have...but the items on the X side have been to my liking, and went with it as more of a total entertainment option, based on intergration with my current stuff and so on.

MarcusFenix said...

Ok, SubaWalker.

No, since you've insinuated yourself all over a bunch of pages with what amounts to nothing more than bovine scatology. So yeah, you're a target, keep being a target, and will continue to do so as long as you keep giving out these idiotic responses.

since i'm not calvin, i can't defend HIM on a post to HIM. Are you still unclear about that? If you want to challenge him, then please do so. It's not like you don't have an account or 12 to do it with.

Ask Calvin what "you come from the same IP address" means, since you're absolutely unclear about all of it. I accepted his word on the matter. I don't accept yours. Case closed.

Now, it's possible you are 2 people, at the same place...but wouldn't it stand to reason that such a claim would be your FIRST line of defense? When you did the whole "I know something yooooouuuu don't know"....did you do it in a sing-song voice like a 6 year old? I almost can hear it from here.

Second...even idiot folks who make arguments like you don't need to be told the same thing (This isn't an argument....) 14 times before it sinks in. You spoon feeding me the same shit over and over doesn't change a thing. It doesn't make your argument more valid by repetition. It doesn't make it anything other than you whining and unable to actually come up with something of substance.

And thousands? Remember, the last time you claimed that....it was 288. God, could you be any more overly dramatic?

"You already admitted that your stance of “breed-breed-breed at whatever cost to other individuals” is based on selfishness."

Where did i admit that? I stated abortion was done for that reason. Please, refresh my memory where this was said. Thanks.

"So why should anyone else sacrifice their freedom & their body to
uphold your selfishness, or the selfishness of part of humankind?"

Never said they should. Of course, it's not -my- selfishness at play, when the person getting the abortion is the one exhibiting it. See, you can't even keep this straight.

I'm waiting to do some more trolling, so please keep up the ridiculousness. It's awesome!

Suba gunawardana said...

Uh-oh, got our little feathers ruffled did we? :)

“since i'm not calvin, i can't defend HIM on a post to HIM. Are you still unclear
about that ? If you want to challenge him, then please do so. It's not like you
don't have an account or 12 to do it with.”

The lady doth protest too much :) So why are you responding to a post to Calvin? LOL! Case closed, don’t you think?

Well, Let me walk you through the process of observation and deduction, so even you can understand this.


-The unfounded allegation that I had dual accounts was made over two days ago. It was a hot topic on LAN then, but people
gossiped about it and moved on. YOU on the other hand, have made an active effort to keep the rumor alive. (Rainbow & I made many posts to many
different people since then. They just respond to the posts, you are the only one
repeating the dual account issue, & use it as an excuse to avoid valid points from both of us)

-I challenged Calvin several times, both on LAN & here, to put his money where his mouth is. Not a peep from Calvin, yet here YOU are defending Calvin every single time.

-I complained that Calvin banned me, and YOU said “I was not the reason you were banned”

-I challenged Calvin to prove his allegation, and YOU made many excuses why he cannot or should not.

-I asked if you are Calvin. You went into a long list of reasons why you aren’t. Every single one just an unverifiable anecdote, that you EXPECT ME TO TAKE YOUR WORD FOR? Hilarious!


Now sonny boy, here’s where it gets interesting: Despite all your efforts to
keep the rumor alive, you somehow KNOW that Rainbow and I are not the same person, as indicated by the many unconscious slips you have made throughout your responses. For example, you address me as a female & rainbow as a male (even in those insults you fling around in a desperate attempt to avoid the point).

Now everyone is supposed to think Rainbow & I are the same person, right, since “the moderated said so”. So how would you KNOW that we are not?

Of course anyone with some intelligence & common sense would have figured it out for themselves by now, as some have. But
that not being the case for you (a blind believer of authority) how would YOU
know that Rainbow & I are not the same person?

The most logical conclusion is, you ARE the moderator who started the rumor in the first place; has no proof to back up his claim; yet desperately wants to keep the rumor going.

So Calvin, I really don’t give a rats behind. If you are too sensitive about it I can go back to calling you Fenix, or
shithead, or whatever name you prefer.

I will respond to the rest of your comment separately, and will address it to myself so it will appear below this. Be a sweetheart & read that too :)

Also I made a new post on TOPIC at the top of
the thread. If you are really interested in debating the topic you can reply to
that.

purrtriarchy said...

I am so glad that my raiding days are over. I used to spend literally every fri-sun night raiding in Everquest. Some days started at 6am and ended at midnight or later!



I've also played WoW, and am happy to be done with that game. Too many nubs who coasted on the rest of us who actually knew what they were doing. The last straw came when my group killed the Lich King and our guild leader ditched us to take his buddies for the hard modes and my dream of getting a frostwyrm died:(


LOTRO is great because I currently don't raid, and I just play whenever I feel like it. I've been playing for 3 years and my highest level character is 63! The only bummer is that LOTRO is a family game and I can't strip down to a bikini! sigh.


How are you enjoying EOS? I will try it someday, once I play the rest of the Morrowind games. I am 90% through the original Elder Scrolls, but had to stop because it got a little dull.

MarcusFenix said...

LOL...trying to stretch something out of text are we? You couldn't possibly ruffle me at all...but it's adorable that you think so! :)

"The lady doth protest too much"

Because the dipshit keeps repeating too much. You claim it repeatedly. You also protest too much about it not being you on like 3 accounts. I'm asserting myself over a false claim. Grow up. :)

I'm responding to a post you hit the REPLY button...to me. Not calvin. If you hit the reply button on a Calvin post, he'd see it. I wouldn't get the email. It wouldnt have (your name) with an arrow pointing to (my name) for a reply. God, are you retarded or something? If you somehow can't grasp the idea that replying to me, and getting a reply from me, isn't the same as getting a reply from someone else, then you're as stupid as I've claimed.

Great, you walked me through your process. You keep responding to be -about- Calvin. I've stated i agreed with his claim. It's really not anything more complicated. You've turned this into something it's not, and then whine when we mention it. It's fun, but becoming old at this point.

You claim i'm Calvin. You have no actual..well...anything. You didn't say "you're from the same IP!". You've got nothing other than just you acting out like a child and making a statement.

Which is exactly why i rejected your original "arguments" for being non-arguments. Notice a pattern?

The most logical conclusion, in case you missed it, is that we're two seperate people in different places, who agree that you're an idiot, a liar, a multi-account logging tool, and a hypocrite. Clearly, even such a low bar was not low enough for you to clear. this was amusing though.

"Of course anyone with some intelligence & common sense would have figured it out for themselves by now, as some have."

Who figured what out? You and....you? your own accounts figured it all out amongst yourselves? How droll! Even people like Purr here have told you, twice, that we're different people. you ignore that and keep going on about it foolishly. :)


"So Calvin, I really don’t give a rats behind. "

I'll email him and let him know you don't care, since he wont' see that any other way...but, i'd observe you do, in fact care, because you keep coming back to it and whining like a little b!tch.

"If you are too sensitive about it I can go back to calling you Fenix, or
shithead, or whatever name you prefer."

Sure, go right ahead. But remember, you're feeding the very troll that last night you cried about for 2 hours. You're welcome to do whatever you want, and im welcome to keep pimp-smacking you as a result. I've got no problem for someone who asks for it!

Also I made a new post on TOPIC at the top of
the thread. If you are really interested in debating the topic you can reply to
that."

Great...except we all moved on to something else. You're welcome to join us there too. Of course, the "new" thread you've started is really the old thread, just placed at the top. We've already discussed it length.

clearly, "new" means something differently to you.

I'll wait for your stompy-feet, whining response. Have at it!

MarcusFenix said...

And this:

"But
that not being the case for you (a blind believer of authority) how would YOU
know that Rainbow & I are not the same person?"

I accepted his answer, because of his past dealings with me...not because i'm "blind".

Certainly, if you were seperate people...you'd have answer for why the IP address is the same.

You'd have also LEAD with that answer, rather than 2 or 3 days later whine and complain like a little girl about it. you could have put this to bed, but as the drama drag queen you are, you keep trotting it out.

Suba gunawardana said...

Here’s the rest of it.

“Ask Calvin what "you come from the same IP address" means, since you're absolutely unclear about all of it. I accepted his word on the matter. I don't accept yours. Case closed.”

OK Calvin, Show me the proof that Rainbows account came from my IP address. Maybe you can email it to privately, you being the "moderator". And if Rainbow & I are the same, it won;t violate his privacy, right?


“Now, it's possible you are 2 people, at the same place...but wouldn't it stand to reason that such a claim would be your FIRST line of defense?”

Why should I “defend” myself? YOU have the
burden of proof Calvin. Furthermore, why should I make such an outlandish
claim, when I don’t have multiple profiles and my computer is NOT shared?

“When you did the whole "I know something yooooouuuu don't know"....did you do it in a sing-song voice like a 6 year old?”


I NEVER said anything like that. You must be delusional, or dreaming about me.

Again, your inability to grasp an argument does not make the argument invalid.


“And thousands? Remember, the last time you claimed that....it was 288. God, could you be any more overly dramatic?”

Here we go with the technicalities again. Way
to avoid the point.


“Where did i admit that? I stated abortion was
done for that reason. Please, refresh my memory where this was said. Thanks.”

OK, from where does your ideology that “humans come first at the expense of all else” come? If not religion, it’s got to be selfishness. I said that one time, and you never rebutted.


“"So why should anyone else sacrifice their freedom & their body to uphold your selfishness, or the selfishness
of part of humankind?"

Never said they should. Of course, it's not -my- selfishness at play, when the person getting the abortion is the one exhibiting it. See, you can't even keep this straight.”

You can’t have it both ways. If “every single fetus should be born”, then by default abortion should be banned. That means every pregnant woman would be FORCED to give birth whether she wants to or not. That means you force women (and their unwanted children) to be slaves to yourideology of “breed-breed-breed”.

Suba gunawardana said...

Duh Calvin the IP address is NOT the same, and you have provided no proof.

Suba gunawardana said...

LOL! Another thousand words of nothing (maybe attempts at intimidation).. Keep trying sonny. If you do post some substance I will respond with my usual courtesy.

MarcusFenix said...

OK Calvin, Show me the proof that Rainbows account came from my IP
address. Maybe you can email it to privately, you being the "moderator".
And if Rainbow & I are the same, it won;t violate his privacy,
right?"

If you're going to ask Calvin questions, it helps by not replying to me and actually answering to him instead. I'm not the phone operator or a message taker, turd.

"Why should I “defend” myself?"

Because all you've done is whine and bitch about it nonstop since then? That's a good start!

"Furthermore, why should I make such an outlandish
claim, when I don’t have multiple profiles and my computer is NOT shared?"

You've -been- making them. that's the fun part of this. If you want Calvin to prove it, go ask the man yourself. I promise, asking someone other than me about their actions is likely going to net you a result....like an answer from the person doing it.

"I NEVER said anything like that. You must be delusional, or dreaming about me."

Oh rly? Well, this reply from your account 1 day ago...in its entirety, says differently:
___________________________
Rainbow Walker
purrtriarchy
a day ago

Actually I would disagree. They are both quite stupid. This Fenix
uses long syllable words which he doesn’t understand, and both use the
same syntax and ramble. They even insult in the same manner. Fenix often
speaks for Calvin in a manner. When Suba pointed out certain things
Calvin said Fenix replied as if it were him. He evades in the same
manner and detracts. Look very closely.

Furthermore I know something you don’t. I’m waiting for him to make a mistake. And he will.
________________________

I know having more than 1 accounts means not keeping things straight, but at least try, idiot.

"Again, your inability to grasp an argument does not make the argument invalid."

What wasn't grasped? You made a statement. You offered no premise, nothing more than a really idiotic comparison to animal rights, and no proofs, data, supporting information...nada.

You made a statement. Not an argument. I rejected it as such. If that's confusing to you, then GTFO...there's nothing more to be explained here.

Even posting your "new"..but old...stuff, its the same thing. Nothing "new". More crap, with more whining.

"OK, from where does your ideology that “humans come first at the expense of all else” come?"

Niiiice try. I never said it was MY ideology. You asked a question about where those things come from. I gave you generic answers as where *people* may get them. I never said they were mine, that i agreed, or anything like it. Do you not read well?

"You can’t have it both ways."

And no one is trying to. I pointed out an example, and nothing more. If you're talking about abortion, and the person committing it is being selfish, then what is both ways about it? I'm not claiming something different at both ends. You just have no grasp of language.

" If “every single fetus should be born”, then by default abortion should be banned."

Unless it's a case of life of the mother, then sure. We can allow exceptions. Notice how you didn't actually bother to get my position before assigning to me yourself? All that assuming gets you...well, you know.

That means you force women (and their unwanted children) to be slaves to yourideology of “breed-breed-breed”."

Except I can't force them to get pregnant. I can't force them to do anything. Do you not understand that?

Asking a woman to be responsible BEFORE she gets pregnant is too much right? Asking her to not destroy innocent life, because it's morally wrong, isn't forcing anything. You're ascribing force, as if i'm pushing people around with a weapon in my hand, where i'm making a moral argument.

It's like you don't even read these....and you're a lawyer?

Wait..no. Ok, answered my own question!

MarcusFenix said...

Sonny? Are you an old white guy? Have a cane? We can compare!

Your usual courtesy is whining like a little b!tch and saying nothing. Go right ahead, i've got time.

MarcusFenix said...

Duh, I'm not Calvin, and can't post the information I don't have!

Eventually, if i just say "i'm not calvin" enough times, it might stick.

MarcusFenix said...

Sorry, I missed this because SubaWalker there still thinks i'm Calvin. Meh.

Anyway..wow, EQ? That's been a minute ago. I think i got to like level 5 and was like "nooope". I used to raid a bunch in WoW. We had a raid leader that was so anal about it, if you got up to go use the bathroom, he cut you out. Told us to bring a "poop sock"...and was totally serious.

I left WoW about a year and a half ago, when I guessed what the new expansion was almost entirely. Boring story doesn't interest me really, and i left after 8 years. Crappy about your raid leader though and don't blame you a bit.

It's been pretty fun, and im impressed with the way it's set up I'm getting busier and might take a few months off, but...honestly, ZenO has handled the launch well, despite some bugs. It plays well, has a very Elder Scrolls feel to it, and has a ton to offer. If you're looking for a good game, I would say give it a roll. In particular, they've really been laying down the law on spammers and gold farmers, and Admins coming in on live server from time to time and smashing them with the banhammer has been a refreshing change.

I'm actually playing like...2 MUD's as well...and wrapping up some stuff on console. Still play State of Decay, when i need to get my zombie-killin' on. :)

Suba gunawardana said...

As you well know, I directly replied to Calvin (you) on LAN, & never got a response. So now I am replying to you here. Have yet to see that proof I asked for.

As proof that I said something, you quoted something Rainbow said. Obviously not proof.

Now logically, if I should accept that as proof that I said it, that means you accept you are Calvin.

If you agree with and uphold the selfishness of humankind, yes it becomes YOUR ideology.

The law can force people just as a weapon. If you promote oppressive laws, you promote force and oppression.

Being responsible does not always prevent pregnancy. Responsible or not, to force a woman to carry an unwanted child is to oppress both the woman and the child.

Suba gunawardana said...

There's that slip again.



Old? You sound like a snot-nosed kid. If you really are old, haven't learned much from the years.

MarcusFenix said...

"As you well know, I directly replied to Calvin..."

Which wouldn't have solicited a response from me. Glad we cleared that up...

"(you) on LAN, & never got a response."

*snaps fingers* Guess not.

You're all complaining about not getting a response, and yet..when you reply to me, you get one rather quickly. Could it be that *gasp* we're not the same person and so i can respond right now and he cant? God, it's like we're talking about 2 different people here!!!! ROFL

"As proof that I said something, you quoted something Rainbow said. Obviously not proof."

Except when the claim is that you're one and the same, from the same IP address, and you've not given us any reason to think otherwise..then yeah, it is you saying it. Isn't that what all of this is about?

"If you agree with and uphold the selfishness of humankind, yes it becomes YOUR ideology."

So, in short..if i think people are selfish, then i must absolutely think it all the time, with no exception and because you tell me to? Great. Let me restructure my ideas around what you think they should be!

I asserted that women who get an abortion, 98% of the time, are acting in a manner that would be considered selfish. Not all humankind. Not every case. Not every person. Hell, you can't even see the forest for the trees here, it's glorious!

"Being responsible does not always prevent pregnancy."

Or would it? Hmmm.....guess you never considered anything else, which isn't a surprise.

"Responsible or not, to force a woman to carry an unwanted child is to oppress both the woman and the child."

LOL, what? Oppress...the child too? I can likely see where you'd say the woman, and even though you'd be wrong and appealing to god knows what (pity, consequence, and so on).....how does that oppress.......the child involved?

can't WAIT to hear that!

MarcusFenix said...

What slip? That i have a bum leg and limp?

You don't have to be old to have a bad leg. It happens, but...see, here you are assuming again.

You've clearly learned nothing in the last few days, much less demonstrated any real knowledge given any factor we can name...you're just prattling on like a disgruntled child and wondering why no one takes you seriously. Not a single person, anywhere, has stepped up to the plate to defend you on your multi-account setup. Wonder why. and for fun, posting yourself under 2 names doesn't count. :)

Suba gunawardana said...

" Could it be that *gasp* we're not the same person and so i can respond right now and he cant?"
No. Considering the observations I made before (no need to repeat, you can re-read if you wish) the logical conclusion is you are the same person.
At least I am basing my conclusion on logic, not hearsay as you claim yo base yours.

MarcusFenix said...

"No. Considering the observations I made before (no need to repeat, you
can re-read if you wish) the logical conclusion is you are the same
person."

You may need to repeat them, for clarity sake. Since logic isn't something you've used at all since we started, I'm immediately suspicious when you use the word "logic" in a sentence.

"At least I am basing my conclusion on logic, not hearsay as you claim yo base yours."

Hearsay would be PJ told Ingrid, who then tell JDC, who then told Adam, who then told me. I read his post for myself. That's not hearsay.

As a lawyer, you should know the difference ROFL.

Of course, you think everyone in that list IS me, so.......there's that little problem.

Suba gunawardana said...

Nothing but empty insults in that one. Try again.

MarcusFenix said...

There's no need. The post stands on its own. Notice you didn't refute anything, so...nope. I'll leave it at that. :)

Suba gunawardana said...

I have learned that you resort to insults when you have no rebuttal (much like most religious nuts). Wastes my time to respond to insults.

MarcusFenix said...

You've clearly not learned that you have no real argument, which requires no actual rebuttal.

We're right back to where we started in your first post.

But please, keep wasting your time with "religious nuts"....that haven't mentioned a single word about religion to you.

See, consistency....ya just don't haz it, kid. ;)

Suba gunawardana said...

Again, you claiming something doesn't make it so. So far you have failed to respond to my argument (actually did make feeble attempt to do so, which I appreciate), and tried to deflect & divert with many tactics.


If you wish to discuss the topic, you could respond to my post on the top of the thread. I rephrased my point so just maybe you would get it.

Suba gunawardana said...

First I am not a lawyer & never said I was.



Second, you claiming "Calvin said so" is hearsay to me, IF you are not Calvin. .


You know very well what my observations were that led to my logical conclusion. If in doubt, read my first post from today again.

MarcusFenix said...

You're right, it doesn't. Your refusal that it's true doesn't either. Calvin stated something, I chose to believe it. You've offered nothing to counter it, and we know that you're illogical and dishonest.

It's not hard to see why i choose to agree with him, rather than you.

If i wanted to discuss the topic, i would. I choose not to discuss it with you, because in 3 posts, we'd literally be back to where these posts are now. You reposting at the top doesn't change -any- other posts here, any of your actions, and brings nothing of worth to the table. I've read your post up there. It's practically the same thing, all over again.

Do you typically want people to react to the same thing a different way, simply because you asked really nicely? Sorry, no. Same conclusion.

You can rephrase that point until your fingers bleed, but it changes nothing. You have a statement. You bring no supporting data. You don't even have premises.

Tell you what. I'll oblige your desire to be corrected all over again right here.

Construct me a proper syllogism of your argument. Right here. Not complicated. 3 Sentences, maybe 4.

Past me talking trash to you, -that- is why i rejected your argument. You made a statement, and had nothing else to go with it just than the opinion it was right.

I'm not interested in debating someone who can't actually debate their topic with anything more than what you've done so far. We'll just be right back here in 20 minutes.

You're welcome.

MarcusFenix said...

Well, since it came from Rainbow, it's not going to be hard to imagine my...lack of faith...in your words.

"Second, you claiming "Calvin said so" is hearsay to me, IF you are not Calvin. ."

Or...reading it on LAN, on their message board....would be me directly reading his words, like any untold number of people. How dense are you, where THIS is an issue?

"You know very well what my observations were that led to my logical
conclusion. If in doubt, read my first post from today again."

I just wanted you to say them again...."oh, they insult us!" Who hasn't? Almost every person you've argued there and here has done that. Not an exclusive club.

You've offered nothing else but your say so. Honestly, so has Calvin. But i accept "they're from the same IP", from a moderator on the site there, long before I'd accept your denial, especially given your responses afterwards.

Sorry, you lose.

Suba gunawardana said...

In other words, you have no rebuttal. You didn't need to take so many words to say it, but I accept that you have no rebuttal.

MarcusFenix said...

Yes, I have no rebuttal...which happens when you make no real argument.

I can't give you something when you ask me to base it on nothing.

Glad we cleared that problem up.

Make a real argument...with real syllogism and real facts...and i can offer a real rebuttal.

Until then, stop asking for a response to a non argument. It's really just that simple.

Suba gunawardana said...

More repetition. As I mentioned before, insults without substance always come from those on the losing side of debates. That doesn't bother me.

If I was insulted by a person with intelligence & compassion, I might be bothered. Has not happened so far.

MarcusFenix said...

"More repetition."

Because you're giving me nothing else to respond to. It kind of works that way.

" As I mentioned before, insults without substance always come from those on the losing side of debates."

Which is why you started with them, then escalated them. I admitted trolling you because you're ignorant. But i answered your questions up front, without snark. You got snippy.

The fact you have no credibility does nothing to help the process.

"If I was insulted by a person with intelligence & compassion, I might be bothered. Has not happened so far."

If you were insulted with a person who had compassion for you...they wouldn't openly tell you how ignorant you are and how persistently juvenile your comments are. Likely, you don't hear it outside of here enough.

But don't act like it doesn't phase you. The massive number of responses, and all of your whining about me being a bully, blah blah....speak to the opposite.

If i were dealing with a person who had intelligence and compassion...this conversation wouldn't be this way. You've demonstrated neither of those.

Funny though..you say they're without substance...and yet you seem so upset by them. Odd. :)

MarcusFenix said...

BTW, can you wrap this up a bit faster? I've got better things to do than holding your hand and listening to you cry. Do you need some tissues? I promise, we can find some hypoallergenic ones that weren't tested on animals. ;)

Suba gunawardana said...

If my responding to you mean I am "phased", your repeated responding me means you are phased too, right?

I seem upset? How?

Also when did I "whine" about you being a bully?

MarcusFenix said...

*facepalm*

Feel free to read like..half the posts from yesterday from you and your alter ego. It's all right here on the page.

Suba gunawardana said...

Uh-oh there go the insults again. You are free to leave anytime. Why do you keep responding?

MarcusFenix said...

Because you're here! Why else, silly!

Suba gunawardana said...

I am still here. if you absolutely have to have the last word, I'll let you. But for the record, you failed to respond to my argument on topic.

MarcusFenix said...

Awesome. I love the last word.

which means, i can say, for the record..you never gave me an argument to actually respond to...as I've said since day 1.

Thanks!

Suba gunawardana said...

Sure, take the easy way out. I should have known from those long-winded responses that you had no real substance to begin with.

MarcusFenix said...

It is easy, when you've made no real argument. The long winded responses were just because i know you LOVE hearing it.

And still getting the last word owns. ;)

Rainbow Walker said...

Boy I don’t take for men treating
women like that. You are showing yourself for exactly what you are Calvin: a little boy who loves talking big behind a screen but is still a coward. You
wouldn’t last a minute in the military. We would have given you a deck party so hard you would have wished your mama aborted you.

Rainbow Walker said...

Perfect, Suba. I couldn’t have done better with your observations and deductions regarding Calvin/Fenix. It
is very obvious he has a plethora of Avatars. I don’t have the luxury of siting in my parents basement playing video games like he does. I need to get to work in the morning. So rather than dance around this thread [I hate disqus] I will address your nonsense here, Calvin/Fenix.

I am a psychologist with a JD. I am licensed by and work for the state of Texas dealing with adjudicated children. Does that answered you inane questions? And by the way the APA doesn’t handle licensure, states do. [http://www.tsbep.state.tx.us/]

Calvin isn’t it strange that on all the places Suba and I
have posted on, no mod has ever claimed that [we have the same IP] except you. We even had quite a heated argument with Eric on care2. And he’s quick to note multiple accounts. And why doesn’t the mod here say the same and ban us?

Rainbow Walker said...

Now I will give you a lesson about API’s. You don’t even know what they are.

Application programming interface is a collection of programming instructions and standards that enable computer programs to directly communicate with one another, like DirectX. There are web api’s used to define Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) request messages, along
with a definition of the structure of response messages, used in XML or JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) format.

Now anyone can look that up right? Let’s get down to brass tacks little boy. API’s are everywhere. Amazon has an
api. Google. Even little ole disqus. Every program you use, every link you click uses another api. Api’s are great; they allow you to do fun stuff like hide MD5 algorithm’s from prying eyes. They contain code that isn’t SaaS [done from
scratch]. That way developers don’t have to work their grimy little fingers to the bone schlepping out code. On the down side it is SaaS, meaning there are set patterns and people who aren’t nice might be able to crack that code.

A sample I generated in MSVS 2012

#include

#include

#include

#include /* Forms
API context */

#include /* Form
module header file */

int main (int argc, char *argv[])

{

d2fctxa ctx_attr;

d2fctx *ctx;

d2ffmd *form;

text *form_name;

/* Check arguments */

if ( argc != 2 )

{

fprintf(stderr, "USAGE: %s
\n", argv[0]);

exit(1);

}

/* Create Forms API context */

ctx_attr.mask_d2fctxa = (ub4)0;

if ( d2fctxcr_Create(&ctx,
&ctx_attr) != D2FS_SUCCESS )

{

fprintf(stderr, "Error
creating Forms API context\n");

exit(1);

}

/* Load the form module into
memory */

if ( d2ffmdld_Load(ctx, &form,
argv[1], FALSE) != D2FS_SUCCESS )

{

fprintf(stderr, "Failed to
load form module: %s\n", argv[1]);

exit(1);

}

/* Get the name of the form module
*/

if ( d2ffmdg_name(ctx, form,
&form_name) != D2FS_SUCCESS )

{

fprintf(stderr, "Error
getting the name of the form module\n");

}

else

{

/* Print the name of the form,
then free it */

printf ("The name of the form
is %s\n", form_name);

free(form_name);

}

/* Destroy the in-memory form */

if ( d2ffmdde_Destroy(ctx, form)
!= D2FS_SUCCESS )

{

fprintf(stderr, "Error
destroying form module\n");

}

/* Close the API and destroy
context */

d2fctxde_Destroy(ctx);

return 0;

}


Now see how easy that was.

But exploits are fairly common. Disqus found that out about a year ago when them Swedish found MD5 hash email
addresses from the API. And scared the blue blazes out of everyone. Now, now, now this is where it gets interesting. Now lean in boy.

They disabled Gravatar from that World-Press software they use. And that solved it, right?



Or did it?

You know what? My B.S. in comp sci, just paid off. I tell you what.

And Calvin, this boy loves video games, and going all over the web mouthing off to people like he knows shit from Shiloh. Making avatars and thinks he knows computers.

Why, I might be looking at you right now. Pull yer britches up Calvin, I don’t want to see that.

MarcusFenix said...

Please, cry me a river on how you're being treated on other accounts.

You can keep saying "Calvin", but clearly you're confused. If you keep acting like you're 70, then it's not a surprise.

I don't "hide" here. I'm not on some other site calling you names or talking crap. I'm here, tellling you on whichever account you choose, that you're an idiot.

Make no mistake. If you were here in person, the words wouldn't be different. And you'd still be an idiot.

You also assume I either have no military background, or no nothing about it. Take your towel/blanket/deck party ideas, and hit the road, sailor. Your internet tough guy routine (which is oddly what you're leveling as a critique) is falling on deaf ears, Sonny. ;)

Rainbow Walker said...

That made me laugh. At least you recognize these people are birthers.

Evidently you have no
understanding of ethics. Funding is very important. Just as in research. When
someone takes funds from one source and always comes to the conclusion of that funding source, it shows a clear violation of ethics. Other real secular sources would not fund so called ‘secular prolife’ and if their funding only comes from religious based organizations, there must be a reason.

MarcusFenix said...

And yet, you still keep calling me by the name of a guy that's like 1500+ miles or so away.

Clearly, your skills aren't all that they're cracked up to be, grandpa.

There's a BS with your comp sci, alright. :)

If you had any actual way of identifying me, you'd have done so. Clearly, you don't. It's a bunch of sophistry, along with more "i'm a tough guy, look at me!".

And please, that t-shirt you're wearing. It's hideous. go with a lighter color. See, wasnt that fun? :)

Rainbow Walker said...

I’ve been to churches too. And very few of them do squat. I have seen them let a man die on the steps of their church because he didn’t want a sermon with his sammich. I have friends who are believers and that hypocrisy is the main reason all of them abandon religion. They even ask me, why are so many religious people nuts.

It’s very true that most religious groups have very high numbers of disorders, especially psychopathy, delusional disorder and schizophrenia.

Albert Ellis was a brilliant man [whom I had the pleasure to meet and hear debate and speak, he was one of my professor’s mentors] claimed that religion represents institutionalized irrationality and is deleterious to psychological functioning. While this is true [if you believe in fairy tales what critical thinking and handle on your emotions are going to have], we are discovering that mental illness is genetic
or biological. What I find is, people are born with the tendency and drawn to
dogmas. This goes into critical thinking.

That’s why some believers can have more critical thinking, if they abandon religion. Those that cling to its precepts are highly irrational.

Once they abandon religion they might want to cling to other things irrationally. I see this in vegans a lot. People may call themselves atheist, but it doesn’t mean they are.

There was discovered what some called the “god gene”. While there is no specific gene that will make you believe or not, there are those that make you more susceptible. In fMRI studies they found a significant difference between believers and non-believers. In atheist more activity in the frontal motor cortex, in believers more activity in the amygdala and limbic system. Basically this means atheists are more
analytical and believers are driven by emotion, learned behavior. Also the amygdala attaches emotional significance to information and mediates both defensive and aggressive behavior. Believers are using the most primitive part
of the brain for the most part.

This is not hard and fast. They found believers who had more activity in the frontal cortex then other
believers tended not to believe in religion.
Also non-believers who had more activity in the amygdala and limbic
system tended to be agnostic.

Rainbow Walker said...

You two really don’t get it.

If you propagate a belief system, you might as well have done it. I have seen skin heads do a couple of “good things” but dose it justify their hatred and bigotry. Evidently you have never read the bible. Especially the OT. And don’t give me this bajebus wasn’t a jew crap.

Mathhew 23:2-3 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Like stoning women for being raped. Or killing someone for wearing garments of two fabrics. Or planting the wrong plants together.

MarcusFenix said...

We don't get that you keep accusing us of religious zealotry, while the only person who has mentioned religion here at all...is you and your other account there. Not sure why it's not clear otherwise.

"Like stoning women for being raped. Or killing someone for wearing
garments of two fabrics. Or planting the wrong plants together."

This might be important if we were...Muslim, or this was 2500 BCE. Are you aware of what day it is?

Rainbow Walker said...

Now don’t lie. He/She was being
snarky [like a little child]. You think it’s perfectly alright for her to call
Purr a psychopath [behind her back], but when someone calls her out, you get insulted. Unrelated posts? You know dammed well she was just being a passive aggressive little child. Whoever she is she enjoys being mean to everyone she doesn’t agree with and doesn’t respect boundaries. I kept relate it back? Lady, you are seriously wrong and you know it. You know your little girl has
serious issues, but it’s alright with you as long as someone doesn’t call her out.

Not on topic? I followed little missy
over to OZ [aka LAN] where she was begging for help because the big bad pro-choices were too much for her. PJ didn’t want to help, but offered up snarky armchair psychology instead. That’s all you people do over in OZ: bad mouth and gossip about the people you don’t like, never staying on topic. The people who have handed your asses to you repeatedly. Calvin created his little realm of insanity over there and his avatars so he could feel like a little puppet king, reminding me of the character Emeric Belasco.

Rainbow Walker said...

You asked for a lesson. I gave you
one. No rebuttal just more fear and stupidity Calvin.

If you had any way of identify me you
would have done it now. I asked for proof and I see none. You made these false claims first. PROVE THEM.

I’ll show you mine if you have
the guts to show me yours. [Wait for the childish sexual double entendre].

MarcusFenix said...

Sure. You also said a bunch of crap, and it ended with....nothing. Great.

I don't need to identify you. And Calvin...C-A-L-V-I-N....made those on LAN. If you want proof, you could...i dunno...go ask him to show you? What a novel concept!

Do you know what day it is? What website you're on? Your name? How many fingers am I holding up?

I don't need to make a double entendre...you made one and it's just fine as it is. Sorry!

It took you a while to type this..are you getting tired? hands hurt? tired of patting yourself on the back with your other account?

It's kind of surreal to argue with you twice in the same day as two different people from your accounts, but don't you think the novelty wears off after a while?

Sure...tell me everything. I'm sure i'd respond in kind! <_<

Suba gunawardana said...

Yeah believers don't "get" a lot of things. Such as blind belief doesn't necessarily involve overt religious nuttery.

Blind belief in authority. or in any dogma fed to you by what you consider authority (generally resulting in harm/oppression of others ) is also tantamount to religion.

MarcusFenix said...

At least you're back to this one! I thought you let this all go though? ROFL

No...belief in religion is tantamount to religion. Believing what someone tells you, unless it's religious...isn't actually religion. Unless you believe atheists are actually a religion.....please, explain how that works?

Clearly, you've never thought this through very well. :(

Suba gunawardana said...

Repeating the same exist strategy here I see...

Deny, Deflect, Divert. Then repeat. Throw in some insults for good measure. LOL!

MarcusFenix said...

Exist strategy? whats that?

Sorry Suba...but I thought you were letting it all go..that it didn't bother you.

That lasted less than 30 minutes.

Deny, when it's not true? Sure. Seems reasonable. But the deflection and diversion...it's all you, sweetie. Glad we could have this chat. Now, next, please use your internet tough guy voice...it's fun and different than your verbal meandering here.

Suba gunawardana said...

What?? Something akin to a real rebuttal?
Keep it up boy You might just learn something.

No. Atheism is LACK of belief. Religion is blind belief. Even if that religion is not of god per se, blind belief is akin to religion. As in Nazism, Communism, veganism etc. & of course, forced-birthery.

Rainbow Walker said...

I don’t care how I’m treated, as long as it’s to my face and not behind my back.

Yes you do hide, Calvin. You hide behind an avatar because you don’t have the guts to face me.

And I have hit that nerve. You don’t want to face facts. Is that why you went ballistic and banned me. Was it my diagnosis? Have you been diagnosed before?



I know you haven’t served. You are a boy in his mother’s basement who plays video games [and with himself] has a
sock fetish and deep context driven lack of self-worth.

Suba gunawardana said...

I meant EXIT strategy.

MarcusFenix said...

Sure thing, gramps! Lets do it!

As i told you before (you know, the other you..), there was no real argument. No syllogism, no real premises, no real facts. Nothing but tripe. I can't work miracles and make rebuttals out of nothing.

Since obvious words are tough, lets play a game.

Definition:
re·li·gion
riˈlijən/
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Blind belief =/= religion. Sorry, no matter how you slice it, there' not the same thing. If you're suggesting that because they share characteristics, that they are...then can you play the "Which fallacy is this?" game with me too?

"As in Nazism, Communism, veganism etc. & of course, forced-birthery."

Two of those are political party/ideologies. One of them is silly, because bacon is really good, and the last is just invective (love the word) and pejorative (another good word)

see, no argument. All crap from you, with nada resembling actual facts.

Come on, Suba... i expected more from your tough guy persona. You're not doing very well here.

Suba gunawardana said...

Again, relying on authority. Dictionaries are written by people too.

Political ideologies or any kind of dogmas can be tantamount to religion when its followed blindly.

Again, criticizing the argument, claiming you don;t like the argument, criticizing the opponent, or flinging insults, only proves you have no real rebuttal.

Rainbow Walker said...

You keep the lie up because you don’t want people to know the truth.

Why is it easier for you to lie then to be honest, Calvin? There is help for this.

“This might be impo rtant if we were...Muslim, or this was 2500 BCE. Are you aware of what day it is?”

And you say my grammar stinks?

Tell that to the FLDS. Or the people who burned the genitals off the child I treated. Or you. Look how you speak to women. I fear for those around you.

Muslims? And there’s that: my bigotry is not as bad as that other guys.

MarcusFenix said...

Well, good...you'll find i'm right here, doing it to you...and don't care either! :)

No, Suba....see, i can play that too....honestly, it's old at this point. I'm not calvin, and the only person who actually believes it, anywhere...is you. It's sad, and repeating it just makes you look all the more foolish.

Face you with what? Which account? Which persona? I'm here, talking to you....how much more face time do you want?

"
And I have hit that nerve. You don’t want to face facts."

You personally haven't given me any. Can't help you there.

"Is that why you went ballistic and banned me."

Do you always ask one person to answer for another, in the hope they'll know an answer? Seems rather foolish....you talk about face time, give Calvin some and see what he says? Seems like an easy answer.

"Was it my diagnosis? Have you been diagnosed before?"

Could have been your lawyer skills...the ones you didn't get from the bar....or whatever else you're projecting. It's fun to watch, but whatever you're smoking or drinking is catching up to you.

"I know you haven’t served."

Did you get that fact from Google, where you got the rest of the fun coding work there? Just a question! :)

"You are a boy in his mother’s basement who plays video games"

Man who has a nice townhouse, plays on the second floor on a 65 inch tv. Pay my own bills. Grats, you managed to get nothing right! What an excellent internet detective you are!

Clearly, the term "sock puppet" really hurts your feelings. Happens when I say it, as it strikes too close to home?

The rest..you can take your degree from Cracker Jack University and run with it all you want. All I get is that you're a depressed, overly obsessive moron with a need to gratify yourself by creating multiple accounts (and maybe horsey midget porn...not clear on that, but maybe)

This isn't very tough guy of you. I've heard worse, and from better. :)

Suba gunawardana said...

"Do you always ask one person to answer for another, in the hope they'll
know an answer? Seems rather foolish....you talk about face time, give
Calvin some and see what he says? Seems like an easy answer."

Aren't you doing the same thing? You just called Rainbow "Suba", and when I asked for proof of something I said, you posted something Rainbow said.

"Man who has a nice townhouse, plays on the second floor on a 65 inch tv.
Pay my own bills. Grats, you managed to get nothing right! What an
excellent internet detective you are!"

LOL now you are down to bragging about your lifestyle? Everybody has a life. Is that all you got?

MarcusFenix said...

so, what religion am i? Clearly you know more about me than i do?

"Why is it easier for you to lie then to be honest, Calvin?"

Because telling you anything other than "i'm not calvin" would be a lie, and feeding your delusion. What else am i to say to this?

"And you say my grammar stinks?"

Typo versus grammar. Remember things like "Rational" you used earlier. I don't care about a typo. Wooptie dooo. The fact you have trouble stringing sensible sentences together is a running jok...errr....problem.

"Tell that to the FLDS. Or the people who burned the genitals off the child I treated."

You tell it to them. They're not me. Why should i get concerned about your fantasy problems, and tell others about them?

"Or you. Look how you speak to women."

I speak to you this way. I don't know if you're a woman. Maybe you're a G.I.R.L. I don't presume you're anything other than the idiot you demonstrate. I treat women with respect, as i do people who don't go out of their way to be completely obtuse. Might try that, as a starter....more flies with honey, and so forth.

"Muslims? And there’s that: my bigotry is not as bad as that other guys."

You listed a common practice of theirs, i pointed it out. Really, it's not complicated. Did you not get that part?

Yes, keep giving yourself upvotes. At least i just do it on my own posts as me. :)

MarcusFenix said...

Relying on....the dictionary...is bad now?

Wow. Ok.

"Political ideologies or any kind of dogmas can be tantamount to religion when its followed blindly."

Even children sing a song about "one of these things isn't like the other". Just saying.

"Again, criticizing the argument, claiming you don;t like the argument,
criticizing the opponent, or flinging insults, only proves you have no
real rebuttal."

Because you're making an argument that doesn't need one. Hell, your response here about the dictionary should be enough to justify the charge. I'm not sure how you can even walk and chew gum at the same time, if this is the best you've got.

Suba gunawardana said...

Your religion is oppressing others when you can, trying to oppress others when you can't, and pretending to have oppressed others when you failed.

MarcusFenix said...

"Aren't you doing the same thing? You just called Rainbow "Suba", and
when I asked for proof of something I said, you posted something Rainbow
said."

Difference being...people believe you're the same person on two accounts. No one but you believes that about me. I know that *seems* really subtle, but....i'm glad to point it out. I work on the premise you're one and the same. You've not really given me anything otherwise, so....there ya go.

"LOL now you are down to bragging about your lifestyle? Everybody has a life. Is that all you got?"

Not bragging. Just mentioning. You clearly own a rancher with 25 acres, have a BMW in the driveway, an olympic size pool.....please, brag away. Did it sting a bit when i said those things, because none of your childish psuedo-conjecture was right? Sorry!

I'm a regular guy, doing w/e. It's not "all I've got"...but unless you want an itemized tax return, or want to come here and take inventory, we don't really have the time...and you're not petty enough to care really? Unless you want to appeal to wealth or poverty...but go ahead. :)

Rainbow Walker said...

“I don't need to identify you.”

Because you can’t, Calvin. And you know it. If you are a man you have no balls.

“You also said a bunch of crap, and it ended with....nothing.”

I don’t follow your farcical allegory, Calvin. You are a stupid little boy, with a lot of emotional problems. You can either be a man, stand up, stop this nonsenses or prove your lies. Or crawl away and beat off to your sock puppet porn. Either way this is getting nowhere. I have a job and I have to get some sleep.

MarcusFenix said...

what religion? Notice you keep saying "your religion"...without specification?

Ever occur to you i don't have one?

So, again..what oppression? With what method?

See, no argument. You can't even get the fact that religion has zero to do with it on my end in your thick skull.

AmyE said...

So you're going to blame all religious people due to a few messed up individuals you've met? I'll play your game and pretend they are delusional people. Most of these "delusional" people have done nothing to me. Why should I blame them for the actions of a few? Meanwhile I've dealt with some miserable atheists. I know some feel freedom when they arrive to the conclusion of no god, but others I've meant have turned cynical, mean, and depressing. Should I blame the large group of atheists who have never done anything to me for the few that have caused as much trouble as bullying my ten year old brother?

MarcusFenix said...

"Because you can’t, Calvin."

Paging Calvin. Paging Calvin. Please, answer your notes on my post board.

"And you know it. If you are a man you have no balls."

Oddly enough, you whine about people talking behind your back, and here you are doing it. If you want to talk to Calvin, you know where to find him.

"I don’t follow your farcical allegory, Calvin."

You haven't followed -anything- so far. It's not surprising you'd have to admit it.

"I have a job and I have to get some sleep."

A job? is that all you have? ;)

Seriously..if you want to talk to Calvin...feel free to go talk to him. He can defend himself against such idiocy without me.

Rainbow Walker said...

He doesn’t have a life Suba or he wouldn’t live on the net, play games and play with himself

Suba gunawardana said...

By "people" you mean either your friends, followers, or other personas you have created. Of course they'll believe you. This is a forced-birth site after all. Their opinion is just as worthless as yours.

Now your property all of sudden jumped up. LMAO! Not that I care, but I am supposed to take your WORD for these "facts" you provide?

Again, the lady doth protest too much, don't you think?

MarcusFenix said...

At least you corrected it. Me, i'm proud of typographical errors..I let them stand.

Glad you acknowledged at least one error. Thanks!

Um, no..again, do you know how to read? I said YOU had said you were letting it go. You gave me the last word and walked away? It's been like an hour, and you can't remember that?

Damn, gramps....we need to get you to a psychologist!! ROFL

Rainbow Walker said...

“Oddly enough, you whine about
people talking behind your back, and here you are doing it.”

You’re a laugh riot, Calvin. You
do have a serious delusional disorder. At least you admit you are a boy yanking off to sock puppet porn. Knock yourself out, little boy.

Suba gunawardana said...

Funny how Calvin never came to your defense. Even if he did, it would just be your other persona anyway so who cares?

MarcusFenix said...

Well..since my followers are all different people who aren't me....then yes..i mean "people"...as in other people.

It's like concepts get away from you. you were always the one trying to shove the round peg into the hole for the triangle, then the square hole, then saying "it cheated!!!" before throwing a tantrum and tossing the peg across the room.

"This is a forced-birth site after all. Their opinion is just as worthless as yours.'

Awwww....Bulverism doesn't suit you. It's best left to the pros.

"Now your property all of sudden jumped up. LMAO! Not that I care, but I
am supposed to take your WORD for these "facts" you provide?"

You don't have to. you can believe what you want. It's not fantasical. I drive a 2005 Ford Focus. Not some magical sports car. I live in a normal townhouse..no fountains, golden tapestries, or anything odd. I bought a nice TV because...i wanted a nice TV. That's just what it is....and lying about it would be kind of pointless. So yeah, do whatever. I'll still have those things in the morning, sans your belief in them. *shrug*

"Again, the lady doth protest too much, don't you think?"

I respond to you posts. If you didn't put something here, i wouldn't bother. You ask, I reply. Very simple, which is still more complex than you can deal with.

AmyE said...

Did I say I was okay with her calling Purr a psychopath behind her back? Now you're lying. :) I don't agree with all of PJ's comments, but most of the time I keep my mouth shut. It's when people get into the mental game that disgusts me. Let's not forget the fact that the two of you were stuck in a circular argument of idiot, mental case, idiot, mental case. I had to say something. Her insults were childish at best, insults I've seen tons of disque users use. But your analysis was creepy and similar to cyber bullying I've witnessed. Now when have I used LAN to gossip about other users?

MarcusFenix said...

Because Calvin isn't here.....i would have thought that's obvious by now. He's over there. He doesn't see my posts. What's complicated about this?

MarcusFenix said...

Admitting by....not saying a thing about it. Got it. So, anytime you don't answer, i know i've got the answer.

Do you tug it? I prefer busty redheads. Asians. Busty redheaded asians. Purr and i both love Kate Upton.

Please, feel free to keep up this line of non-questioning and psuedo answers.

Didnt you say it was past your bedtime? :)

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